CTC - the premier campaigning uselessness for UK cyclists

Trevor A Panther wrote:

Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC.

It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues

CTC has District Associations, part of CTC, which are, pretty much by
definition, interested in local issues. It's rather disingenuous IMHO
to try and pretend head office and local branches are nothing to do with
one another.

If I had a local cycling issue I wanted to talk about I'd probably start
with Tayside DA.

Pete.
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Ian Jackson wrote:

Yes, I am. Do I have to give my membership number when I email them ?
It doesn't suggest on their website that I should.

It seems the obvious thing to do. Any membership organisation
will (and should IMO) give priority to its members.

As you saw, the first paragraph of my email was a summary.

I didn't find enough detail in their to decide on the merits
of the case. Why make it hard for people?

Arthur

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burtthebike wrote:

"Trevor A Panther" wrote in message
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Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC.

It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues

Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local
issues, with or without inverted commas.

The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically.

Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner?

I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining
the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about
the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them.

It's all well and good doing things in private, but it's not a good way
to get or keep members.

Cheers,
Luke


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exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk

Ekul Namsob wrote:
burtthebike wrote:

"Trevor A Panther" wrote in message
. uk...

Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC.

It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues
Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local
issues, with or without inverted commas.

The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically.

Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner?

I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining
the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about
the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them.



The article in today's CTC magazine seems to show that they were a bit
swan like during that period.

"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message
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burtthebike wrote:

"Trevor A Panther" wrote in message
. uk...


Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC.

It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues

Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local
issues, with or without inverted commas.

The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically.

Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner?

I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining
the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about
the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them.

Not doing anything? so that's why it was changed then. And what did you
do?

burtthebike wrote:

"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message
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I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining
the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about
the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them.

Not doing anything? so that's why it was changed then. And what did you
do?

I wrote to my MP and signed the online petition. This being a
parliamentary democracy, it's just possible that pressure from MPs
helped to change the Code.

What about you?

Cheers,
Luke


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exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk

"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message
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burtthebike wrote:

"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message
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I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining
the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about
the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them.

Not doing anything? so that's why it was changed then. And what did you
do?

I wrote to my MP and signed the online petition. This being a
parliamentary democracy, it's just possible that pressure from MPs
helped to change the Code.

What about you?

Cheers,
Luke

Well Luke, like you I wrote to my MP, and signed the online petition, but I
did so in response to the request from the CTC, which organised the action
opposing the the godawful new rules in the highway code. Why did you write
and sign the petition? I wonder if it's because someone from the CTC told
you about it? Or perhaps it was just coincidence?

"burtthebike" wrote in message
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"Trevor A Panther" wrote in message
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Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC.

It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues

Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local
issues, with or without inverted commas.

The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically.

Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner?

Since Trevor himself won't respond, I think we can deduce that the first is
not true, but the second is. Anyone who expects a membership organisation
to take action for non-members and then complains that they don't has not
been circumcised*

*a complete prick.

"marc" wrote in message
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Ekul Namsob wrote:
burtthebike wrote:

"Trevor A Panther" wrote in message
. uk...

Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC.

It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues
Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local
issues, with or without inverted commas.

The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically.

Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner?

I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining
the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about
the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them.



The article in today's CTC magazine seems to show that they were a bit
swan like during that period.

"Swan like"???????? please elucidate

burtthebike wrote:

"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message
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burtthebike wrote:

"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message
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I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining
the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about
the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them.

Not doing anything? so that's why it was changed then. And what did you
do?

I wrote to my MP and signed the online petition. This being a
parliamentary democracy, it's just possible that pressure from MPs
helped to change the Code.

Well Luke, like you I wrote to my MP, and signed the online petition, but I
did so in response to the request from the CTC, which organised the action
opposing the the godawful new rules in the highway code.

Did they? You may like to look at what Google Groups has to show on this
group from this spring. http://preview.tinyurl.com/3dvoh9

As I recall, the CTC in its newsnet of 30/03/07, reported on this group,
announced: "We will be considering how best to respond. We urge members
to 'hold fire' for the moment". That was the last they announced for a
good five or six weeks. This despite the fact that, as it then stood,
the draft HC would have coerced cyclists to use farcilities.

Why did you write
and sign the petition? I wonder if it's because someone from the CTC told
you about it? Or perhaps it was just coincidence?

Bearing in mind what I have quoted from the CTC above, it's unlikely to
have had anything to do with them.

Cheers,
Luke


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