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Riding at night: a strategy for survival?
"Tom Keats" wrote in message ... In article , _ writes: On Fri, 02 May 2008 19:36:06 +0200, Jens Müller wrote: ComandanteBanana schrieb: On May 1, 5:24 pm, Jens Müller wrote: ComandanteBanana schrieb: Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with blinking lights Args. Please don't use this blinking bull****s. It just distracts other drivers and makes them focus on the blinking. So how is it the blinking rear lights are OK? They aren't ok. Why not? There's a belief that it's more difficult for an observer to determine the speed and vector of a blinking, rather than steady light in the darkness of night. Perhaps blinking lights confuse our human, pathological tendency of Persistance Of Vision. What're those things called? Oh, yeah: "optical illusions." I suppose there's a wariness about blinking lights creating optical illusions. Or epileptic seizures. |
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Riding at night: a strategy for survival?
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Jens Müller writes: Tom Keats schrieb: The real reason bicycle red rear lights blink is to conserve battery juice and avoid expense. What batteries? Here bicycles need to have a dynamo (by law). Here in British Columbia bicycles just need to have lights at all, for riding at night. I use dynamo lights. They work well for my purposes. But I supplement them with battery lights which have the option of flashing or steady beam. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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On Sat, 3 May 2008 13:05:11 -0700, Tom Keats wrote:
In article , _ writes: On Fri, 02 May 2008 19:36:06 +0200, Jens Müller wrote: ComandanteBanana schrieb: On May 1, 5:24 pm, Jens Müller wrote: ComandanteBanana schrieb: Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with blinking lights Args. Please don't use this blinking bull****s. It just distracts other drivers and makes them focus on the blinking. So how is it the blinking rear lights are OK? They aren't ok. Why not? There's a belief that it's more difficult for an observer to determine the speed and vector of a blinking, rather than steady light in the darkness of night. Perhaps blinking lights confuse our human, pathological tendency of Persistance Of Vision. Well, more than a "belief" would be required for any effort to attempt to persuade others to adopt the same conclusion. Unless Muller is being merely religious. |
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Riding at night: a strategy for survival?
On Fri, 02 May 2008 06:50:35 -0700, Pat wrote:
On May 1, 5:49Â*pm, ComandanteBanana wrote: On May 1, 5:24Â*pm, Jens Müller wrote: ComandanteBanana schrieb: Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with blinking lights ....SNIP... I don't think any solid light will be strong enough to be seen by drivers who simply aren't looking for bikes at that time... if they are paying any attention at all. ....SNIP... Anything you can do to increase your visible profile is helpful. Perhaps Cold Cathode Wire is the answer to being seen. See: http://www.vibelights.com/elwibikit.html Now that is being visible!!! Of course it is a bit gaudy... Rich B. |
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Riding at night: a strategy for survival?
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_ writes: So how is it the blinking rear lights are OK? They aren't ok. Why not? There's a belief that it's more difficult for an observer to determine the speed and vector of a blinking, rather than steady light in the darkness of night. Perhaps blinking lights confuse our human, pathological tendency of Persistance Of Vision. Well, more than a "belief" would be required for any effort to attempt to persuade others to adopt the same conclusion. Unless Muller is being merely religious. In my own empirical observations I've found my above statement to be true. I, however, don't mind that blinking lights may make drivers' brains work harder. Whatever it takes to keep 'em on their toes & alert. There's been too much emphasis on dumbing-down driving, instead of smartening it up. When we dumb something down, we end up with a bunch o' dummies doing it. Some jurisdictions in various nations & countries only allow blinking/flashing lights on emergency vehicles. Fair enough. It's been suggested that blinking/flashing lights attract drunk drivers and cause them to crash into the vehicle with the light source, but I think that's just a canard. I think cyclists should be allowed to have blue tail lights, either flashing or steady. Anybody who can't tell the difference between a Police/Fire/Ambulance cherry & a bicycle light is too stoopid to be on the street. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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In rec.bicycles.misc _ wrote:
There's a belief that it's more difficult for an observer to determine the speed and vector of a blinking, rather than steady light in the darkness of night. Perhaps blinking lights confuse our human, pathological tendency of Persistance Of Vision. Well, more than a "belief" would be required for any effort to attempt to persuade others to adopt the same conclusion. Simply check your preferred library on the topic of visual cognition, especially in traffic‥ Cutting follow-up to rec.bicycles.misc, -- MfG/Best regards helmut springer panta rhei |
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On May 4, 4:37 am, Richard wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2008 06:50:35 -0700, Pat wrote: On May 1, 5:49 pm, ComandanteBanana wrote: On May 1, 5:24 pm, Jens Müller wrote: ComandanteBanana schrieb: Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with blinking lights ...SNIP... I don't think any solid light will be strong enough to be seen by drivers who simply aren't looking for bikes at that time... if they are paying any attention at all. ...SNIP... Anything you can do to increase your visible profile is helpful. Perhaps Cold Cathode Wire is the answer to being seen. See:http://www.vibelights.com/elwibikit.html Now that is being visible!!! Of course it is a bit gaudy... Rich B. available in UK from BeSeenOnABike.com http://tinyurl.com/69pbzf and http://tinyurl.com/62o9lm |
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Riding at night: a strategy for survival?
On 2 May, 14:50, Pat wrote:
On May 1, 5:49 pm, ComandanteBanana wrote: On May 1, 5:24 pm, Jens Müller wrote: ComandanteBanana schrieb: Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with blinking lights Args. Please don't use this blinking bull****s. It just distracts other drivers and makes them focus on the blinking. So how is it the blinking rear lights are OK? I don't think any solid light will be strong enough to be seen by drivers who simply aren't looking for bikes at that time... if they are paying any attention at all. I was told the same thing about having blinking lights on the canoe, which I fixed. 3M makes some pretty spectacularreflectivetape that you can use for all sorts of situations. For example, I have a black helmet. I put a strip of the blackreflectivetape (which reflects white) on the back of the helmet. During the daytime you can't see it (it just looks like a piece of electrical tape) but it is BRIGHT during the night. Anything you can do to increase your visible profile is helpful. get it he http://tinyurl.com/6nnp43 |
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