Another killer let loose.

Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified

A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43-
year-old man from Southend.

Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan
Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with
a car.

A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.

The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail
until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex
Police."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm

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www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.


So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was
released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

--

Tony Dragon

On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified

A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43-
year-old man from Southend.

Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan
Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with
a car.

A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.

The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail
until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex
Police."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was
released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

What are the risks of his offending again while on bail? I'm not in
favour of holding people on remand unnecessarily, but a bail condition
preventing him from driving would not hurt.

Simon Brooke wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified
A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43-
year-old man from Southend.
Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan
Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with
a car.
A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.
The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail
until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex
Police."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm
--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.
So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was
released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

What are the risks of his offending again while on bail? I'm not in
favour of holding people on remand unnecessarily, but a bail condition
preventing him from driving would not hurt.

You'd potentially prevent him from supporting himself and any family he has
even though he's not guilty?

We don't even do that to those on bail accused of murder.

On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified

A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43-
year-old man from Southend.

Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan
Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with
a car.

A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.

The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail
until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex
Police."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm


So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was
released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides
he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever
arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than on
a road a killing would be treated much more seriously.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

On 6 July, 21:58, JNugent wrote:
Simon Brooke wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified
A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43-
year-old man from Southend.
Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan
Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with
a car.
A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.
The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail
until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex
Police."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm
--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.
So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was
released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

What are the risks of his offending again while on bail? I'm not in
favour of holding people on remand unnecessarily, but a bail condition
preventing him from driving would not hurt.

You'd potentially prevent him from supporting himself and any family he has
even though he's not guilty?

We don't even do that to those on bail accused of murder.

What about the gyrocopter pilot who is still awaiting trial? Oh I
nearly forgot he is a hunt sab and therefore deserving of special
police attention, not like your run-of-the mill motorist, and cops,
judges and juries drive cars too don't they.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

Doug wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified

A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a
43- year-old man from Southend.

Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan
Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision
with a car.

A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.

The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail
until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex
Police."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm


So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was
released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides
he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever
arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than on
a road a killing would be treated much more seriously.

Wrong again Doug. Even people charged with murder are allowed bail.

Brimstone wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified
A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a
43- year-old man from Southend.
Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan
Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision
with a car.
A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.
The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail
until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex
Police."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm

So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was
released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides
he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever
arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than on
a road a killing would be treated much more seriously.

Wrong again Doug. Even people charged with murder are allowed bail.


Generally, yes, but not always.

Bod

Doug wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified
A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as a 43-
year-old man from Southend.
Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in Lifstan
Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in collision with
a car.
A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.
The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police bail
until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to call Essex
Police."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm

So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver was
released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

Keep him inside in case he kills again.

Eh?

The legal system doesn't even do that for people remanded on a murder charge.

Remember Winston Silcott?

Bod wrote:
Brimstone wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified
A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as
a 43- year-old man from Southend.
Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in
Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in
collision with a car.
A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.
The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police
bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to
call Essex Police."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm

So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver
was released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides
he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever
arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than
on a road a killing would be treated much more seriously.

Wrong again Doug. Even people charged with murder are allowed bail.


Generally, yes, but not always.

You obviously don't understand the difference between "allowed" and
"granted".

Brimstone wrote:
Bod wrote:
Brimstone wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 July, 18:21, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
"Fatal crash cyclist is identified
A cyclist who died in a collision in Essex has been identified as
a 43- year-old man from Southend.
Nigel Garrett, of Newington Avenue, Southend, was cycling in
Lifstan Way, Southend, early on Saturday morning when he was in
collision with a car.
A teenager was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous
driving.
The 19-year-old man from Southend was later released on police
bail until 18 October. Any witnesses to the crash are asked to
call Essex Police."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8135863.stm
So due process of law was followed, the innocent (so far) driver
was released on bail.

What do you suggest that should have been done?

Keep him inside in case he kills again. If an unbiased court decides
he is innocent then fair enough, though how it could possibly ever
arrive at such a conclusion is beyond me. In any other context than
on a road a killing would be treated much more seriously.
Wrong again Doug. Even people charged with murder are allowed bail.


Generally, yes, but not always.

You obviously don't understand the difference between "allowed" and
"granted".


You said Are allowed bail"....they aren't if they are denied bail.

The judge decides whether to 'grant' or 'refuse' bail,they are not
automatically "allowed".

Bod