Cycling splintered on Usenet

Paul Southworth wrote:

: In my opinion the worst problem with rec.bicycles.* is the fact
: that rec.bicycles.off-road is completely ruined. It would be best
: to just delete it. (FYI I am one of the moderators.) If we could
: unmoderate it I would support doing that.

Would it make sense to recreate it? rec.bicycles.mtb or something.

: suggest a vote on deleting rec.bicycles.off-road. Anyone posting
: to rec.bicycles.off-road would be better off posting to
: alt.mountain-bike.

IMO gets a bit confusing already... the alt.* groups are not even
under a single hierarchy... For example I wasn't aware that
alt.mountain-bike even exists, since we have
rec.bicycles.off-road. I was simply assuming that off-road
cyclists aren't too active on the Usenet.

--
Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/

Paul Southworth wrote:
: In my opinion the worst problem with rec.bicycles.* is the fact
: that rec.bicycles.off-road is completely ruined. It would be best
: to just delete it. (FYI I am one of the moderators.) If we could
: unmoderate it I would support doing that. But we are left with a
: situation where some news servers think it's moderated, others
: don't, and we can't influence their choice one way or the other.

Have to ask... :-) How did it end up like that? I'm not familiar
with all the history, was it recently moderated because of Mr V?

--
Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/

Hunrobe wrote:

Why so touchy? I didn't say they weren't bicycles. I said they belong in an
"alt." category. Do you agree with that or are you going to claim that you
*don't* get a kick out of riding an out-of-the-ordinary machine?

I have been considering getting an upright road bike for times when I do
not want to attract attention - something that is decidedly impossible
on a recumbent lowracer or trike.

BTW, operating under your rather sketchy definition scooters are also bicycles.
Will you defend scooter riders if they invade your 'bent group? ;-)

There have been several discussions of adult push scooters on
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, and no one objected seriously.

Tom Sherman - 41 N, 90 W

On 16 Dec 2003 00:42:59 GMT,
wrote:

Seems not all cycling topics have been collected under
rec.bicycles.*. For example, there is:

alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
rec.sport.unicycling
fitness groups where cycling - at least indoor cycling - comes up
time to time

Search all group names for "cycling" and "bicycl" and you'll find
upwards of twenty groups.

Anybody think this is an issue?

Just the way usenet has evolved. :-|


jeverett3ATearthlinkDOTnet http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

wrote in message
...
Seems not all cycling topics have been collected under
rec.bicycles.*. For example, there is:

alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
rec.sport.unicycling
fitness groups where cycling - at least indoor cycling - comes up
time to time

Anybody think this is an issue?

--
Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/


Based on the recent posts here, I can see a need for rec.bicycles.lighting.

Man these lighting folks are serious. You could combine them and the helmet
war folks together in one newsgroup and see who comes out on top.

Interestingly, I have yet to see someone post about a hub-powered headlamp
for individuals without a helmet!

Any comments?

Kerry

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:48:48 GMT, "Sorni"
wrote:
Anybody think this is an issue?
Only people riding on wooden saddles.

That's better than people riding wooden seatposts with no saddle.

Tangent: Googled for "stick up his ass", hoping to find a hint for
those who might not get my joke. Found this:
:Batman is an avenger of the night, a dark and brooding figure,
:and even at his worst a campy fat man with a stick up his ass.

Bill "splinter humor attempt" S.
--
Rick "Al Gore humor attempt?" Onanian

On 16 Dec 2003 01:47:51 GMT, (Hunrobe) wrote:

1- recumbents are interesting machines but they truly do belong in an "alt."
category,

My alt.bike is a wedgie, my everyday.bike is a recumbent. Make of
that what you will ;-)

Guy
===
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:58:19 GMT, "Kerry" k n i k o l a i s e n@s b
c g lo b a l.net wrote:
Interestingly, I have yet to see someone post about a hub-powered headlamp
for individuals without a helmet!

Any comments?

Yes. You should NEVER ride a helmet-powered hublamp without a head
on your head. I did once, and I died as a result.

Kerry
--
Rick Onanian

Tom Sherman

wrote:


I have been considering getting an upright road bike for times when I do
not want to attract attention - something that is decidedly impossible
on a recumbent lowracer or trike.

---snip---

I guess then that part of those machines attraction for you lies in their
unusual nature. I'd say that's a pretty good indication that an "alt." group
may be better suited for discussions about them, especially trikes since they
have an extra wheel that disqualifies them as bicycles under your definition.

BTW, operating under your rather sketchy definition scooters are also
bicycles.
Will you defend scooter riders if they invade your 'bent group? ;-)

There have been several discussions of adult push scooters on
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, and no one objected seriously.


Push scooters and no one objected? Since I don't believe that 'bent riders are
any more prone to endless patience and tolerance than the rest of us, I have to
wonder if any read that NG or if maybe those threads just disappeared too
rapidly to generate any responses.

I still think alt. groups suit 'bents better than say this NG but no matter. I
can simply read what interests me and ignore the rest.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

wrote in part:

Hunrobe wrote:

: 1- recumbents are interesting machines but they truly do belong in an
"alt."
: category,

I see the alt.* category more as a technical or Usenet-related
political decision, not primarily an indicator of the subject
matter being alternative.

---snip---

I view the alt. category as being loosely related to but an alternative (hence
the "alt." designation) to their mainstream counterparts, rather like a "niche
market". In that respect, 'bents are definitely alt. material.

Regards,
Bob Hunt