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Tights over or under riding shorts?
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In article , David L. Johnson wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:19:35 +0000, Per Elmsäter wrote: Are you sure you haven't just seen people with legwarmers. I've never seen anybody with tights under the shorts but a pair of legwarmers may look like that. Modern tights are the best excuse to throw away those annoying legwarmers. They never have, and never will, stay up where they belong. We used to safety-pin them to the shorts to get them to stay put. RPITA. Tights are so much better. I have a selection of weights to work for any range of temperature when I can't wear shorts alone. _ You should try modern leg warmers. My Hind knee warmers stay up just fine. I even use them skiing to keep my cranky old knees warm and loose. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQB++SGTWTAjn5N/lAQH6fgP+INM7LkA9yPRAxG1kH+i7Fvcjuneocnp3 8wz6lMHWR1NVD8xXTB4uflqziSp4H5WxIIb9LaiUXShMuDC1E6 SmpXIFBePfsP+n 2dIKgXMJk9U7WnROIAzvifqAJO2/fyGvA03A9GKX7ZM+rEDALUno1DtSIyGFeYVz 1BayRgzMb3A= =SwcL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
David L. Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:19:35 +0000, Per Elmsäter wrote: Are you sure you haven't just seen people with legwarmers. I've never seen anybody with tights under the shorts but a pair of legwarmers may look like that. Modern tights are the best excuse to throw away those annoying legwarmers. They never have, and never will, stay up where they belong. We used to safety-pin them to the shorts to get them to stay put. RPITA. Tights are so much better. I have a selection of weights to work for any range of temperature when I can't wear shorts alone. I don't understand tights without chamois to begin with, unless you want to be able to strip down to shorts. But why? Most cycling garments have a wide enough comfort range so that's not necessary. My most used garment is probably my knickers -- which are perfect from about 50-70F, and fine for short periods colder (or warmer) than that. Some places have huge temperature swings within a few hours, but that's not the norm. Usually it's more like 20 degrees (F), well within the comfort range of most garments. So I don't see what the big deal is with all this layering and re-layering. I do understand leg warmers for one reason -- they cost like $20, and will do the trick if you can't afford another $75 pair of knickers or tights. I will only buy tights with chamois. Unfortunately they're hard to find, and if you're new to the sport you might not know they exist -- especially if your LBS is mute about anything they don't happen to have in stock. Matt O. |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
Matt O'Toole wrote:
I don't understand tights without chamois to begin with, unless you want to be able to strip down to shorts. But why? Most cycling garments have a wide enough comfort range so that's not necessary. My most used garment is probably my knickers -- which are perfect from about 50-70F, and fine for short periods colder (or warmer) than that. I've had many occasions where I was in doubt about whether to wear shorts or tights based on the temperature. Padded shorts plus unpadded tights solves the problem. I have only one pair of padded tights and I find the fit isn't as comfortable as with shorts. So even when I know it's too cold for shorts alone, I usually wear shorts and the unpadded tights. YMMV. Art Harris |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
"Matt O'Toole" wrote
I don't understand tights without chamois to begin with, unless you want to be able to strip down to shorts. But why? I never remove tights while riding, but I really don't understand tights with pads. It's hard enough to find a pair of shorts that have a pad & fit that I like, I don't want to go through all that just for tights. I have 3-4 pairs of tights in different weights and lengths (some are knicker length). |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
Peter Cole wrote:
"Matt O'Toole" wrote I don't understand tights without chamois to begin with, unless you want to be able to strip down to shorts. But why? I never remove tights while riding, but I really don't understand tights with pads. It's hard enough to find a pair of shorts that have a pad & fit that I like, I don't want to go through all that just for tights. I have 3-4 pairs of tights in different weights and lengths (some are knicker length). I do too, but they all have pads. I'm a pretty standard size and proportion, so most fit me fine. I do understand the fit issues, though. However, if you have shorts that fit, the corresponding tights from the same company usually fit too. And bibs usually solve most other fit problems, but then you're really kicking the price up. Matt O. |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
"Matt O'Toole" wrote in message
... I don't understand tights without chamois to begin with, unless you want to be able to strip down to shorts. So you can wear them x-c skiing, too. Of course, the last time I wore my thermal tights x-c skiing, I did a low-speed but still flailingly spectacular wipe-out that caused them to rip up the center seam. I probably could have worn them for several more years cycling before that would have happened. -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato and .net for .com Home of the meditative cyclist: http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm Books just wanna be FREE! See what I mean at: http://bookcrossing.com/friend/Cpetersky My bookshelf: http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/Cpetersky "To forgive is to set the prisoner free and then discover the prisoner was you." |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
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"Matt O'Toole" wrote: David L. Johnson wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:19:35 +0000, Per Elmsäter wrote: Modern tights are the best excuse to throw away those annoying legwarmers. They never have, and never will, stay up where they belong. We used to safety-pin them to the shorts to get them to stay put. RPITA. Tights are so much better. I have a selection of weights to work for any range of temperature when I can't wear shorts alone. My Trek leg warmers, when used with my ordinary cycling shorts, don't fall down. You need to make sure there's enough overlap to keep everything in place, but it's not hard. Some places have huge temperature swings within a few hours, but that's not the norm. Usually it's more like 20 degrees (F), well within the comfort range of most garments. So I don't see what the big deal is with all this layering and re-layering. I do understand leg warmers for one reason -- they cost like $20, and will do the trick if you can't afford another $75 pair of knickers or tights. The other nice thing about leg warmers is that they don't get very dirty during normal use (unless you're a nut and go play in the mud with your mountain bike, like me). Because of that, one pair of leg warmers and multiple pairs of shorts is as good as multiple pairs of shorts and tights. My entire lower-body bike wardrobe consists of a pair of cycling shorts, a pair of mountain bike shorts (baggy synthetic shorts with zip-up pockets and a liner), leg warmers, and Activa Stormfront fleece tights with rain-shell fronts and no chamois. The tights are incredibly warm: they are probably too warm above 10C (but I run cold-blooded, often wearing a jersey, arm warmers, and a neck tube when I know it will be dry and above 5 C) I wear the tights over the cycling shorts, or sometimes on my short commute with a pair of boxer-briefs instead. The plan for this year is to buy a set of bib shorts for racing and some really warm booties. I'm tired of cold feet. -- Ryan Cousineau, http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:06:10 GMT, "Matt O'Toole" wrote:
I don't understand tights without chamois to begin with, unless you want to be able to strip down to shorts. But why? Most cycling garments have a wide enough comfort range so that's not necessary. My most used garment is probably my knickers -- which are perfect from about 50-70F, and fine for short periods colder (or warmer) than that. I do I have 5 pairs of shorts but I only need one pair of tights over them. if they had chamois i would need 5 pair. -- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
"David L. Johnson" wrote in message .. .
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 10:56:25 -0700, GS wrote: The vast majority of riders that I see when it's cold wear their tights underneath their riding shorts. Yeah? No one I ride with does. Most tights don't have a chamois, but shorts do. Put the chamois against your skin, and the tights on the outside. I can't think of any good reason to put the tights on under the shorts, except for those who wear shorts for a team and with to display their colors. Used to be, old wool tights had poor elastic and were badly cut, and would fall down unless held up by your shorts. Really. But most of those tights should be full of moth-holes by now. Well I wear mine under my shorts. Of course they aren't really tights. They are polypropylene long johns, and would look like undies if I wore em over my shorts. But what the hey! Keep Stylin' Bernie |
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Tights over or under riding shorts?
Claire Petersky wrote:
I don't understand tights without chamois to begin with, unless you want to be able to strip down to shorts. So you can wear them x-c skiing, too. Ah, another good point that I forgot to mention. I wear my unpadded tights for jogging. Art Harris |
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