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Saddle for beginner female?
I am just not understanding why you feel that choosing the right
saddle for her is YOUR responsibility? And she hasn't even ridden the bike yet? Aren't you putting the cart a little in front of the horse? Let her choose HER OWN saddle. Otherwise she will never assume ownership of the decision. And you think that helping a woman with her bike is going to allow you to "hang out [together] more often"? Nope, sorry, it doesn't work that way! And you're NOT going to have any fun riding with this woman because she's completely out of shape. You will get bored as hell riding slowly enough to stay with her, and she will get angry and resentful because you are faster than she is. If you want to be honest about it, basing your relationship on cycling is more likely to cause disagreements between you than it is to improve your friendship. Let's face it, chances are that she will stop riding completely when she finds out how out of shape she is, and how hard it is going to be to get in shape. Most people are afraid of "hurting" while they get in shape, and I'll bet she is one of those. Find another woman with whom you have more in common, and not necessarily cycling, because women are notorious for changing their interests weekly! She'll be interested in mountain biking this week, and something entirely different next week. Don't be afraid to remain single; don't be so "needy" for a relationship; and let the women seek YOU out if they are interested in you. The only kind of woman you're going to please with your present attitude is the kind who wants to make you do everything for her, but since women like that will never admit their own helplessness, they will never show you any appreciation for what you do. You don't want that. Been there, done that, and didn't even get a tee shirt. Listen to the voice of experience. |
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wrote in message ... A lady friend of mine has recently taken an interest in mountain biking. I'm excited about this, since it'll give me anther partner in my favorite sport and give us a chance to hang out more often. She has never had a "real" bike before, but her primary recollection of any problems from cycling in the past has always been soreness from the saddle. i suggest taht she just use what she has for awhile--when she begins to grock saddles then ask other female riders you come across and ask questions hth peter |
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Sorry, Rob, but the young guys need advice from us old farts who have
been around the block a few times, and I don't mean ONLY on a bike! Because our modern society is extremely matriarchal and misanthropic, young men tend to get brainwashed by the womens' lib political correctness and live out their lives being directed by it, rather than "marching to the beat of their own drummer" instead, and in doing so, discovering themselves. In addition, as we all know there is a lot of family and peer-group pressure on young men to get into a relationship with a woman. But the divorce rate is HUGE, and all of the married men I know are extremely unhappy and depressed (if you can get them to drop the "happily married" facade and really be honest) because women just don't seem to be able to stop themselves from being domineering. All their new power has totally gone to their heads; they delude themselves into thinking that they can do anything a man can do, even though they can't; and since they've tricked themselves into thinking that a man's skills are easy, they will never give a man the respect he deserves for using his skills. If men start realizing that they are NOT going to make themselves happy by marrying or shacking up, then they will start thinking more about how to be happily single. I didn't make any unwarranted assumptions. As I said, I've been there and done that, several times over, and I KNOW whereof I speak. If you think I have a big agenda, then you are simply refusing to face reality. Have a nice day. |
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On Feb 7, 5:54 am, wrote:
I am just not understanding why you feel that choosing the right saddle for her is YOUR responsibility? And she hasn't even ridden the bike yet? Aren't you putting the cart a little in front of the horse? I don't feel it is my responsibility at all. However, being the default "bike guy" amongst all my friends, whenever she has a question I get an email. Whenever ANY of my friends (outside of friends I made cycling) have a bike question, I am the default. When my PARENTS friends have bike questions, my phone rings. When she read that the worst complaint about this particular bike was an uncomfortable saddle, she mentioned that the saddle was a comfort issue for her years ago as a kid. I have no experience in woman's saddles. I enjoy being knowledgeable about bikes. Cart in front of the horse? Hardly. Let her choose HER OWN saddle. Otherwise she will never assume ownership of the decision. She's a successful adult, firefighter and EMT. I have no concerns in her ability to assume ownership of her decisions, she appears to do it quite well, and has since she was a kid. And you think that helping a woman with her bike is going to allow you to "hang out [together] more often"? Nope, sorry, it doesn't work that way! Actually, as adult friends get older, life, family, mortgages, etc. all start to get in the way of old fashioned "hanging out". Having a common hobby seriously adds to the hang out time. I just started climbing at the rock gym with my best friend, and guess what, we spend more time together because of it. And you're NOT going to have any fun riding with this woman because she's completely out of shape. You will get bored as hell riding slowly enough to stay with her, and she will get angry and resentful because you are faster than she is. Out of shape? Jumping jesus on a pogo stick, where do you come up with this ****? I said she doesn't ride, that's it. I didn't say a word about the gym, field hockey, soccer, or running in and out of burning buildings. She's in better shape than I am. If you want to be honest about it, basing your relationship on cycling is more likely to cause disagreements between you than it is to improve your friendship. How about basing our relationship on the fact that we've been good friends since we were 10 and grew up just down the street from each other? We actually enjoy challenges and ribbing between each other, and have since we were playing football in our front yards as kids. Does that have your approval, oh wise and mighty old-fart? Let's face it, chances are that she will stop riding completely when she finds out how out of shape she is, and how hard it is going to be to get in shape. Most people are afraid of "hurting" while they get in shape, and I'll bet she is one of those. Find another woman with whom you have more in common, and not necessarily cycling, because women are notorious for changing their interests weekly! She'll be interested in mountain biking this week, and something entirely different next week. Don't be afraid to remain single; don't be so "needy" for a relationship; and let the women seek YOU out if they are interested in you. The only kind of woman you're going to please with your present attitude is the kind who wants to make you do everything for her, but since women like that will never admit their own helplessness, they will never show you any appreciation for what you do. You don't want that. Again, I HAVE NO ROMANTIC INTEREST HERE. What makes you think I'm single? What makes you think she's single? What make s you think I like woman? What makes you think she likes men? What makes you think I'm looking for a relationship? I'm afraid you're projecting your own insecurities and failures onto the wrong canvas, I'm just helping a friend get a bike fer chrystsakes. Been there, done that, and didn't even get a tee shirt. Listen to the voice of experience. I am. The ones with relevant experience, which appears to be everyone but you in this thread. |
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On Feb 7, 6:41 am, wrote:
Sorry, Rob, but the young guys need advice from us old farts who have been around the block a few times, and I don't mean ONLY on a bike! Because our modern society is extremely matriarchal and misanthropic, young men tend to get brainwashed by the womens' lib political correctness and live out their lives being directed by it, rather than "marching to the beat of their own drummer" instead, and in doing so, discovering themselves. In addition, as we all know there is a lot of family and peer-group pressure on young men to get into a relationship with a woman. But the divorce rate is HUGE, and all of the married men I know are extremely unhappy and depressed (if you can get them to drop the "happily married" facade and really be honest) because women just don't seem to be able to stop themselves from being domineering. All their new power has totally gone to their heads; they delude themselves into thinking that they can do anything a man can do, even though they can't; and since they've tricked themselves into thinking that a man's skills are easy, they will never give a man the respect he deserves for using his skills. If men start realizing that they are NOT going to make themselves happy by marrying or shacking up, then they will start thinking more about how to be happily single. I didn't make any unwarranted assumptions. As I said, I've been there and done that, several times over, and I KNOW whereof I speak. If you think I have a big agenda, then you are simply refusing to face reality. Have a nice day. You are hysterically arrogant and simultaneously off base. You made nothing but unwarranted ASSumptions, you poor miserable old fool. |
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Hopefully this will be more constructive than some of the other posts on this thread! I've got the Terry Butterfly on both my road and mountain bike and they have been lifesavers. I would, though, let her ride the bike for awhile and see if she even wants/needs to change her seat. If she rides enough, she'll figure out if she thinks another shape of seat will feel better to her, believe me! If so, then talk to your local bike shop to see if you can return one if it doesn't work out. I would suggest trying REI because they have a great return policy, however they lack in the choice of bike seats. If you're located in the Triangle area, I have a couple of seats she can try. Neither are Terry seats, but they may be different than the stock seat on her bike. Beth -- bethw ------------------------------------------------------------------------ bethw's Profile: http://www.trianglecycling.com/member.php?userid=547 View this thread: http://www.trianglecycling.com/showthread.php?t=26133 |
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I just get so f'ing SICK of women and their constant litany about how
they need special equipment, special bikes, special clothes, etc. in order to engage in cycling! Why are women cyclists so dumb that they don't even realize that they are being taken advantage of by the cycling companies that pander to them? God, they are SO DUMB! Anybody who claims to have a special cycling product "FOR WOMEN" can sell a million of them to those insecure, unaware women who think that buying such products will actually benefit them and make them a decent cyclist. If the woman's ass is so soft that her present saddle hurts, she just needs to lose weight and get in better shape. Her butt will harden up in time. But I'll bet she won't do this, because she sounds like a typical woman sniveler. |
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