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the future is up in the air
This may sound Quixotic, but the future is up in the air, not in the
sense the Republicans make it likely, but in the sense of windmills. Regrettably, not enough money is going into it, since --as you may very well know, unless you are blind-- our resources are going into war and other stupid ways to secure a long life for the dinosaurs, ie the SUVs... Wind Power Set to Become World's Leading Energy Source Lester R. Brown In 1991, a national wind resource inventory taken by the U.S. Department of Energy startled the world when it reported that the three most wind-rich states-North Dakota, Kansas, and Texas-had enough harnessable wind energy to satisfy national electricity needs. Now a new study by a team of engineers at Stanford reports that the wind energy potential is actually substantially greater than that estimated in 1991. Advances in wind turbine design since 1991 allow turbines to operate at lower wind speeds, to harness more of the wind's energy, and to harvest it at greater heights-dramatically expanding the harnessable wind resource. Add to this the recent bullish assessments of offshore wind potential, and the enormity of the wind resource becomes apparent. Wind power can meet not only all U.S. electricity needs, but all U.S. energy needs. .... Denmark leads the world in the share of its electricity from wind-20 percent. In terms of sheer generating capacity, Germany leads with 12,000 megawatts. By the end of 2003, it will have already surpassed its 2010 goal of 12,500 megawatts of generating capacity. For Germany, this rapid growth in wind power is central to reaching its goal of reducing carbon emissions 40 percent by 2020. .... The energy future belongs to wind. The world energy economy became progressively more global during the twentieth century as the world turned to oil. It promises to reverse direction and become more local during the twenty-first century as the world turns to wind, wind- generated hydrogen, and solar cells. Wind and wind-generated hydrogen will shape not only the energy sector of the global economy but the global economy itself. http://www.earth-policy.org/Updates/Update24.htm |
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national hypocrisy
drydem wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:31 am, Bill wrote: Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954" wrote: As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases. Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Has anybody looked at the current generation of high-tech (sic) windmills? They are a joke, and bird killers to boot. The best windmill designs were those that were in use in the 1930's when the TVA project demanded that a farmer take down or disable his windmill to get power to the farm. Obviously that would take enough electricity to pay for running out the electricity so the farmer could have electric lights. The new, 3 skinny blade windmills are a joke since 90% of the air pass right through the gaps. The intake vanes of a modern jet engine show how a windmill should be designed, along with a feathering mechanism for windy days. Too much thinking for the current crop of over-educated dimwits. Bill Baka The best hi tech windmills are from germany - they have variable vane/airfoils that can adjust to the windspeed. They are very tall structures and generate quite a bit of power. Some environmentalist are worried that these structures represent a danger to birds - I haven't come across any scientific studies verifying this risk though. The reason the blades/vanes are very thin is that this design can structurally handle higher wind forces and thus is more resistance to damage from high winds. Lighter thinner blades require less wind force to reach the minumum speed needed for electric generation faster than if the windmill blades were heavier and larger. The reason the blades are thin is they LOOK hi-tech. When I see a big wind generator all I see is inefficiency. Most of the wind goes through the HUGE gap between the blades. When birds try to do that most get through but some get nailed by the next blade. I won't try to debate with you since if you don't understand now I doubt that you ever will. Bill Baka The intake vanes of a turbojet are designed to runs at a different speed and different magnitude of force than a windmill. There are similarities in a turbojet's intake vanes and that of a hydro electric generator's turbine. Nuclear power plants that use hi pressure steam also have electric generator turbines that look similar to a turbojet's vanes. |
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national hypocrisy
"Bill" wrote in message ... I won't try to debate with you since if you don't understand now I doubt that you ever will. Bill Baka Hold this up to a mirror and read it. |
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to start THE REVOLUTION
"di" wrote in :
"donquijote1954" wrote in message ups.com... "The terrorists who attacked America weren't being funded primarily by drug money. They were being funded primarily by oil money. In other words, it isn't the drug addicts who should feel guilty. It's the gasoline addicts." So where did this "oil money" come from? Before you answer, be careful, you about to justify the Iraq War. The people who who attacked America on 9/11 were funded by the taxes the Americam people pay every year on April 15. They are : Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz Please see : http://www.newamericancentury.org/st...principles.htm -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Selling The Revolution
So, don quixote, What would it take to get you to sell
us all down the river? Well, besides T-shirts (I don't think the store is even working), I'm selling the idea of THE REVOLUTION. Hey, don't you think of Chavez taking over here --or even Obama (much less Osama)--, but rather to get America going in the path toward change and civilization, say the Canadian DEMOCRATIC way. Yes, they have signed the Kyoto Protocol, provide Healthcare for all and stayed away from this predatory war... So if you want to buy the idea let me know. Absolutely free. THE REVOLUTION http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution |
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Shoud there be a "freedom to pollute"?
On Apr 14, 3:18 pm, "george conklin" wrote:
"nash" wrote in message Y'all need to read Hofstadter's book on the paranoid in American politics. You are good examples. George, Big Oil and Big Tobacco are very similar. Even when Big Tobacco knew of the risks of smoking, they dismissed it by hiring a good PR firm to throw confusion about the issue. Maybe you should try to work for one, if you are not already doing so... The big difference is that smokers mostly pollute their own lungs. SUVs, though, are dangerous to all who inhabit this planet. A label may just say, "This Supersized Unnecessary Vehicle is dangerous to your health, and to those around you." |
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George would make a good PR
On Apr 14, 3:18 pm, "george conklin" wrote:
Y'all need to read Hofstadter's book on the paranoid in American politics. You are good examples. See, George, you could do a good PR. Or perhaps we should give the "honor" to that other George that lead us into the costliest war after WWII over nonexistent WMDs... "I defy anyone to read the middle chapters of The Cigarette Century, the ones that detail the foundation of the Tobacco Institute and the industry's efforts to muddy scientific waters, and not come away with a burning need to drive down to North Carolina and find someone to throttle. Or Madison Avenue. Among the many villains Brandt skillfully waterboards are executives at the public relations giant Hill & Knowlton, which during the 1950s single-handedly orchestrated Big Tobacco's campaign to undermine anti-smoking advocates and scientists up to and including the surgeon general. No lie was too big to tell, no bit of pseudo-science too ridiculous to pass off as legitimate. Parents, if you have teenagers considering a career in p.r., have them read this first. I can't remember the last time I read a more scathing indictment of corporate malfeasance." http://www.amazon.com/Cigarette-Cent.../dp/0465070477 |
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to start THE REVOLUTION
"Chris" wrote in message .. . "di" wrote in : "donquijote1954" wrote in message ups.com... "The terrorists who attacked America weren't being funded primarily by drug money. They were being funded primarily by oil money. In other words, it isn't the drug addicts who should feel guilty. It's the gasoline addicts." So where did this "oil money" come from? Before you answer, be careful, you about to justify the Iraq War. The people who who attacked America on 9/11 were funded by the taxes the Americam people pay every year on April 15. They are : Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz Please see : http://www.newamericancentury.org/st...principles.htm You forgot: Donald Duck |
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to start THE REVOLUTION
"Chris" wrote in message .. . "di" wrote in : "donquijote1954" wrote in message ups.com... "The terrorists who attacked America weren't being funded primarily by drug money. They were being funded primarily by oil money. In other words, it isn't the drug addicts who should feel guilty. It's the gasoline addicts." So where did this "oil money" come from? Before you answer, be careful, you about to justify the Iraq War. The people who who attacked America on 9/11 were funded by the taxes the Americam people pay every year on April 15. They are : Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz Please see : http://www.newamericancentury.org/st...principles.htm -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com That was a really stupid reply. |
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George would make a good PR
"donquijote1954" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 14, 3:18 pm, "george conklin" wrote: Y'all need to read Hofstadter's book on the paranoid in American politics. You are good examples. See, George, you could do a good PR. Or perhaps we should give the "honor" to that other George that lead us into the costliest war after WWII over nonexistent WMDs... "I defy anyone to read the middle chapters of The Cigarette Century, the ones that detail the foundation of the Tobacco Institute and the industry's efforts to muddy scientific waters, and not come away with a burning need to drive down to North Carolina and find someone to throttle. Or Madison Avenue. Among the many villains Brandt skillfully waterboards are executives at the public relations giant Hill & Knowlton, which during the 1950s single-handedly orchestrated Big Tobacco's campaign to undermine anti-smoking advocates and scientists up to and including the surgeon general. No lie was too big to tell, no bit of pseudo-science too ridiculous to pass off as legitimate. Parents, if you have teenagers considering a career in p.r., have them read this first. I can't remember the last time I read a more scathing indictment of corporate malfeasance." You changed the subject, but I don't smoke, for the record. I do have a tobacco buyout. |
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