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Clip or not to clip - that was the question
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------------------------------------------------------------------------ I know that toe clips aren't popular these days. On the recumbent, however, they are a little more problamatic. They are a lot slower to get in to because one has to come from ``underneath'' the clip; the traditional method of catching the rear point of the pedal on the sole of the shoe doesn't work well when you are behind the pedals rather than above them. On the other hand, my chiropractor, who also has a great interest in sports medicine, examined my recumbent and said that he felt the twisting motion needed to get out of clipless pedals would be harmful if used from a recumbent, rather than the normal upright, position. When you are using toeclips, the type of shoes you wear is quite important. My first test rides on my recumbent were in street shoes, and I couldn't keep my feet in the clips for any length of time. (If I didn't actively push my feet up when in the clips, they would just fall right out.) In my touring shoes, which are designed for toeclips, I don't have this problem. I've got a pair of old Sidi touring shoes, which have about 3 mm deep left-right grooves in the sole under the ball of the foot. On an upright bike these help to catch the hook on the back of the pedal to help one clip in. (They work very well: on my upright I can get back into clips faster than most people I know can cleat in. I sometimes find myself looking down to find out why I'm having so much trouble getting into the clip to find that my foot went in so smoothly and quickly that I never noticed it.) On my recumbent (and presumably on my upright, though I didn't notice it as much) these grooves act like small cleats, and help to keep my foot locked into the pedal. I keep my toe straps quite tight. I thought this would make the clips more difficult to get in to, but it doesn't, and it takes a good solid tug to get my feet out of the clips. (But I've got no problem doing it; I do it at every stoplight.) I can relax my legs completely and my feet will still `hang' in the toeclips. I have also tried a pair of old racing shoes (designed for toe clips and straps) with cleats on them. They really lock your foot in nicely, but it wasn't as easy to get the foot out (though it could still be done without any inordinant amount of difficulty). The biggest problem with these was the very smooth, hard sole, which made walking and even standing very difficult. I actually fell over on my recumbent at one point after I had put my foot down on the ground because the shoe just slid out from under me. The touring shoes never have this problem. Sad to say, proper shoes designed for clip systems are awfully difficult to find these days. Modern cycling shoes can be bought with a little rubber plate in place of the cleat (one would normally remove this to install the cleat) but I've not seen any shoes recently that have the grooves my Sidi shoes have. |
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Clip or not to clip - that was the question
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On the other hand, my chiropractor, who also has a great interest in sports medicine, examined my recumbent and said that he felt the twisting motion needed to get out of clipless pedals would be harmful if used from a recumbent, rather than the normal upright, position. I'd be interested to know why it malkes any difference at all. The body parts are more or less at similar angles to one another, just rotated back the way. Furthermore, I've been using Time ATACs on both uprights and 'bents for years now and don't notice any difference in use between one and the other. And since clipless are remarkanly common on 'bents, you'd have thought that a lot of problems would be showing up by now if this was true, but it's the first I've heard of it. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Clip or not to clip - that was the question
In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:40:45 -0500
Joel joelw135atcomcast.net wrote: I can't believe that your chiropractor would make such a crazy remark. Well... how likely you think it is they will make a crazy remark devoid of medical sense depends on your view of chiropractors I guess.... Zebee |
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Peter Clinch wrote:
:: wrote: :: ::: On the other hand, my chiropractor, who also has a great interest in ::: sports medicine, examined my recumbent and said that he felt the ::: twisting motion needed to get out of clipless pedals would be ::: harmful if used from a recumbent, rather than the normal upright, ::: position. :: :: I'd be interested to know why it malkes any difference at all. The :: body parts are more or less at similar angles to one another, just :: rotated back the way. I think it's just a random comment by a chiropractor and nothing more. He's just thinking out loud & on the fly. He's likely wrong. Big whoop! :: :: Furthermore, I've been using Time ATACs on both uprights and 'bents :: for years now and don't notice any difference in use between one :: and the other. And since clipless are remarkanly common on 'bents, :: you'd have thought that a lot of problems would be showing up by :: now if this was true, but it's the first I've heard of it. :: :: Pete. :: -- :: Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer :: Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital :: Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK :: net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
:: In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:40:45 -0500 :: Joel joelw135atcomcast.net wrote: ::: I can't believe that your chiropractor would make such a crazy ::: remark. :: :: Well... how likely you think it is they will make a crazy remark :: devoid of medical sense depends on your view of chiropractors I :: guess.... :: It's not like he stood up at a medical conference and made a pronoucement. He was just thinking out loud and is very likely wrong. |
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Roger Zoul wrote:
Peter Clinch wrote: :: wrote: :: ::: On the other hand, my chiropractor, who also has a great interest in ::: sports medicine, examined my recumbent and said that he felt the ::: twisting motion needed to get out of clipless pedals would be ::: harmful if used from a recumbent, rather than the normal upright, ::: position. :: :: I'd be interested to know why it malkes any difference at all. The :: body parts are more or less at similar angles to one another, just :: rotated back the way. I think it's just a random comment by a chiropractor and nothing more. He's just thinking out loud & on the fly. He's likely wrong. Big whoop! :: :: Furthermore, I've been using Time ATACs on both uprights and 'bents :: for years now and don't notice any difference in use between one :: and the other. And since clipless are remarkanly common on 'bents, :: you'd have thought that a lot of problems would be showing up by :: now if this was true, but it's the first I've heard of it. :: :: Pete. :: -- :: Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer :: Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital :: Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK :: net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ If there were a problem with the clipless system there would have been many law suites by now, especially how law suit crazy the USA is. And as far as your chiropractor making a remark like that still is a no, no as far as I am concerned. People expect proper and factual remarks from a medical practitioner. My uncle was a chiropractor for many years and I felt he was good at what he did, but I also feel that many practice a little under the guidelines. I had such a chiropractor and he caused me nothing but pain, if I knew then what I know now I would be in a lot better shape. |
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Joel wrote:
I think it's just a random comment by a chiropractor and nothing more. He's just thinking out loud & on the fly. He's likely wrong. Big whoop! If there were a problem with the clipless system there would have been many law suites by now, especially how law suit crazy the USA is. I agree with the big whoop (!), I can assume a twisted ankle might have been the cause for concern. But moving up to bungie cords rather than straps is a cheap and easy way to go. Doing that on my own without professional comments may make me a 'rebel with 2 clods'! |
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