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I'm interested in getting a hybrid type bike and would prefer to buy an
American-made product, if possible (yeah, I know most of the components are going to be imported). Have been told that Trek bikes are made in the US and that Gary Fisher bikes are made by Trek (?). (Fisher bikes I'm considering are the Utopia/Nirvana/Zebrano/Tibruon series.) The websites of both companies are rather vague on the question, which usually implies that many or most of their products maybe made elsewhere (i.e., using terms like "Designed in America", etc.) Is there an easy way to tell what bikes are US-made on the websites? Are the bikes well-marked? Any other suggestions? (I'm not looking for reasons why I shouldn't buy American or why it doesn't matter or trying to get political or jingoistic- just an unemployed toolmaker who prefers his dollars go to US workers.) Thanks a lot. |
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David Kerber wrote:
In article , says... I'm interested in getting a hybrid type bike and would prefer to buy an American-made product, if possible (yeah, I know most of the components are going to be imported). Have been told that Trek bikes are made in the US and that Gary Fisher bikes are made by Trek (?). (Fisher bikes I'm considering are the Utopia/Nirvana/Zebrano/Tibruon series.) The websites of both companies are rather vague on the question, which usually implies that many or most of their products maybe made elsewhere (i.e., using terms like "Designed in America", etc.) Is there an easy way to tell what bikes are US-made on the websites? Are the bikes well-marked? Any other suggestions? When I was shopping, the Trek dealer told me that their more expensive ( $1000) bikes are made in the US (Wisconsin, IIRC, though I could be wrong on that), but their cheaper ones are made elsewhere in the world. Keep in mind that the company is still based in the US, so the profits stay here, and most of the office personnel are here. I think this is the general case for all "American" bikes. The higher end ones are made here (the frames), with cheaper models farmed out to Taiwan or China. Componentry is of course largely Japanese. The Treks are based and made in Wisconsin. Waterford is there too and they also build Herons. Cannondale has their headquarters in Connecticut but the bikes are produced in PA. Independent Fabrication is here in MA. How to tell which model is actually built where I do not know. Perhaps just ask at the respective web sites. SMH |
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Get a Cannondale. All their models are made in PA.
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TREKs & Gary Fisher bicycles are made both here in the US and overseas.
It's difficult, if not impossible, to build lower-end frames here in the US, due to the astoundingly-cheap (yet increasingly-skilled) labor in China. At the higher price points, technology can keep the US production ahead of the game, and build a better frame for a similar price (but it's a moving target, with the technology that TREK uses in a domestic frame today likely to become the standard way they're built in China two years down the road). In general, bikes below $700 will have frames produced overseas, although final finishing, painting & assembly is usually done in the US. Above $700, nearly all frames are produced in TREK's Waterloo, WI facility. The plant in Whitewater is primarily used for painting & assembly. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com For a given model, you need to look at the label on the chainstay. If it says "Made in the USA" wrote in message . net... I'm interested in getting a hybrid type bike and would prefer to buy an American-made product, if possible (yeah, I know most of the components are going to be imported). Have been told that Trek bikes are made in the US and that Gary Fisher bikes are made by Trek (?). (Fisher bikes I'm considering are the Utopia/Nirvana/Zebrano/Tibruon series.) The websites of both companies are rather vague on the question, which usually implies that many or most of their products maybe made elsewhere (i.e., using terms like "Designed in America", etc.) Is there an easy way to tell what bikes are US-made on the websites? Are the bikes well-marked? Any other suggestions? (I'm not looking for reasons why I shouldn't buy American or why it doesn't matter or trying to get political or jingoistic- just an unemployed toolmaker who prefers his dollars go to US workers.) Thanks a lot. |
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Folks back home (I graduated from UW-Whitewater) are pretty ticked off at
Trek, according to my family. Looks like Trek is laying off everyone at the Whitewater facility, probably to ship the jobs overseas. "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" wrote in message news ![]() TREKs & Gary Fisher bicycles are made both here in the US and overseas. It's difficult, if not impossible, to build lower-end frames here in the US, due to the astoundingly-cheap (yet increasingly-skilled) labor in China. At the higher price points, technology can keep the US production ahead of the game, and build a better frame for a similar price (but it's a moving target, with the technology that TREK uses in a domestic frame today likely to become the standard way they're built in China two years down the road). In general, bikes below $700 will have frames produced overseas, although final finishing, painting & assembly is usually done in the US. Above $700, nearly all frames are produced in TREK's Waterloo, WI facility. The plant in Whitewater is primarily used for painting & assembly. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com For a given model, you need to look at the label on the chainstay. If it says "Made in the USA" wrote in message . net... I'm interested in getting a hybrid type bike and would prefer to buy an American-made product, if possible (yeah, I know most of the components are going to be imported). Have been told that Trek bikes are made in the US and that Gary Fisher bikes are made by Trek (?). (Fisher bikes I'm considering are the Utopia/Nirvana/Zebrano/Tibruon series.) The websites of both companies are rather vague on the question, which usually implies that many or most of their products maybe made elsewhere (i.e., using terms like "Designed in America", etc.) Is there an easy way to tell what bikes are US-made on the websites? Are the bikes well-marked? Any other suggestions? (I'm not looking for reasons why I shouldn't buy American or why it doesn't matter or trying to get political or jingoistic- just an unemployed toolmaker who prefers his dollars go to US workers.) Thanks a lot. |
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"Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" wrote
in message news ![]() TREKs & Gary Fisher bicycles are made both here in the US and overseas. It's difficult, if not impossible, to build lower-end frames here in the US, due to the astoundingly-cheap (yet increasingly-skilled) labor in China. I've watched, over the last 20 years or so, the migration of bicycle production from place to place. In my very early career we had bikes manufactured in Europe (Peugeot, Raleigh) and Canada/US. A lot of those makers were pushed out of the low-end market by cheaper Japanese bikes. Over time, they became too expensive as cheaper Taiwanese brands became available. From Taiwan they've migrated to China. I've already seen bikes manufactured in India. I wonder how long they can keep finding cheaper places to build bikes..Bangladesh? Mali? The technology transfer is pretty good..Japan had great quality, Taiwan learned and became a strong maker (Giant). Chinese bikes were absolute rubbish early on but they have become the equal of Taiwan in quality. Indian bikes right now are also total crap, but soon they will equal the Chinese quality. Developed nation labour is too expensive for such "menial" tasks. Environmental costs, wages, benefits, unions...they simply can't compete. Welcome to the Brave New World. Cheers, Scott.. |
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Folks back home (I graduated from UW-Whitewater) are pretty ticked off at
Trek, according to my family. Looks like Trek is laying off everyone at the Whitewater facility, probably to ship the jobs overseas. I haven't heard anything about it, and hope it's not true. But if it is, it's not because they're shipping the jobs overseas... the jobs are already there. We created them with a new world economy with fewer trade barriers and a desire to get everything done as cheaply as possible, even if that means buying from huge megastores that make predatory demands upon their suppliers and replace decent local jobs with those paying less $$$ and fewer benefits (not that I'd say anything like that about Wal-Mart...). --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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