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On Jul 2, 5:31*pm, rruff wrote:
Of course all the paranoid consider themselves merely "aware". How safe would you like them to be, and how much of your children's living are you willing to sacrifice to obtain this safety? Life is dangerous... in fact, everyone dies from it. Object, in general, being "dying of old age surrounded by loved ones", not killed by an abductor. It's safer in traffic than a ****box econocar (aside from the 5-Star crash rating) *because it is large and accelerates reasonably quickly.. It is safer only when slamming into the "****box econocar"... Wrong. Sitting up higher is part of the equation. not when hitting a vehicle of similar size. We could all be driving Abrams and getting 3 gal/mi and we still wouldn't be safe. Machine guns and turret guns a-blazin'. Road rage enters a new dimension! --D-y |
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--D-y wrote:
On Jul 2, 2:46 pm, Donald Munro wrote: D-y wrote: Lexus 470, approx 5400lb Sequoia, 5100 lb Yukon Denali (now we're getting somewhere) 5800lb Odyssey (what I drive), 4500lb It's safer in traffic than a ****box econocar (aside from the 5-Star crash rating) because it is large and accelerates reasonably quickly. Far fewer idiots swooping and dodging, cutting me off than in the Camry, which is a fairly large ****box, actually. Don't like it? Well, talk to the idiots. --D-y Fred Fredburger wrote: Hummer H2, 6614 lb M1 Abrams with depleted uranium armor, 65 tons. Rubber treads available for highway use. That main gun could come in mighty handy occasionally, but probably not enough to justify the gas mileage (est. 3gal/mile). But these things DO happen from time to time. http://tinyurl.com/m89srg |
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:36:51 -0700 (PDT), --D-y
wrote: Rubber treads available for highway use. That main gun could come in mighty handy occasionally, but probably not enough to justify the gas mileage (est. 3gal/mile). Memories of 1961 or so, when my dad was assigned to USAEUR HQ in Heidelberg, Germany. We got caught in the middle of a traffic jam during one of the Berlin things, behind a tank with the cannon pointed directly at us. They look bigger from that perspective. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On Jul 2, 4:45*pm, --D-y wrote:
Object, in general, being "dying of old age surrounded by loved ones", I think you must have misread the description when you signed on for this life. You don't get to choose the manner of your parting... but you do get to choose how you live for as long as you are here. not killed by an abductor. How many children are killed by abductors... vs other things... like getting struck by lightning? Wrong. Sitting up higher is part of the equation. Obviously this is only a benefit when running over cars that are shorter than yours. Otherwise all the height buys you is a greater likelyhood of roll-over. |
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On Jul 3, 11:32*am, rruff wrote:
On Jul 2, 4:45*pm, --D-y wrote: Object, in general, being "dying of old age surrounded by loved ones", I think you must have misread the description when you signed on for this life. You don't get to choose the manner of your parting... but you do get to choose how you live for as long as you are here. not killed by an abductor. How many children are killed by abductors... vs other things... like getting struck by lightning? If it's your child, "how many" is the one you care about. Wrong. Sitting up higher is part of the equation. Obviously this is only a benefit when running over cars that are shorter than yours. Otherwise all the height buys you is a greater likelyhood of roll-over. Wrong-o. I agree that roll-over might be more likely, but for sure, side intrusion is much more often a factor, and that's why it can be better to be "up". I enjoy the intimidation factor, and make no bones about it. "Go cut some ****box off, jerk". Such is life, and I'm not the one driving agressively. --D-y |
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, --D-y wrote: On Jul 3, 11:32*am, rruff wrote: On Jul 2, 4:45*pm, --D-y wrote: Object, in general, being "dying of old age surrounded by loved ones", I think you must have misread the description when you signed on for this life. You don't get to choose the manner of your parting... but you do get to choose how you live for as long as you are here. not killed by an abductor. How many children are killed by abductors... vs other things... like getting struck by lightning? If it's your child, "how many" is the one you care about. Wrong. Sitting up higher is part of the equation. Obviously this is only a benefit when running over cars that are shorter than yours. Otherwise all the height buys you is a greater likelyhood of roll-over. Wrong-o. I agree that roll-over might be more likely, but for sure, side intrusion is much more often a factor, and that's why it can be better to be "up". Science says you've made a poor choice. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them." |
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:42:09 -0700 (PDT), --D-y
wrote: Wrong-o. I agree that roll-over might be more likely, but for sure, side intrusion is much more often a factor, and that's why it can be better to be "up". The downside is the number of short drivers that have poorly adjusted mirrors. The most common vehicle in my experience to merge badly onto the Interstates around here are SUVs, often with a completely clueless 5 foot or so woman driving right into your car. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On Jul 3, 5:11*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:42:09 -0700 (PDT), --D-y wrote: Wrong-o. I agree that roll-over might be more likely, but for sure, side intrusion is much more often a factor, and that's why it can be better to be "up". The downside is the number of short drivers that have poorly adjusted mirrors. The most common vehicle in my experience to merge badly onto the Interstates around here are SUVs, often with a completely clueless 5 foot or so woman driving right into your car. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Odyssey has terrible mirrors, and headrests have "caused" lots of accidents in all kinds of MV's since being mandated. The Odditiy does have a fair amount of up/down as well as back/forth and tilt in the seat (power versions, don't know if they come without power driver seats). You have to move your head around to see for safe lane changes. Lots of folks are allergic to that, similar to turn signal use. Not the way I roll g. --D-y |
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On Jul 3, 1:29*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Science says you've made a poor choice [sitting up higher v. lower COG). Our Camry isn't much in the handling dept. as I found out, without harm, when a bad (woman) driver in the next lane yanked it over towards me at a very bad time. Not saying the Oddity is better, but I'll take higher pending an exhaustive rbr crunching of impact-with- injury statistics. Another cool thing is the bike goes in the back, wheels on, and another bike fits behind the front seats, wheels on. If I were traveling to races, etc., we'd put some kind of interior rack in there, I guess. --D-y |
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, --D-y wrote: On Jul 3, 1:29*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote: Science says you've made a poor choice [sitting up higher v. lower COG). Our Camry isn't much in the handling dept. as I found out, without harm, when a bad (woman) driver in the next lane yanked it over towards me at a very bad time. Not saying the Oddity is better, but I'll take higher pending an exhaustive rbr crunching of impact-with- injury statistics. Another cool thing is the bike goes in the back, wheels on, and another bike fits behind the front seats, wheels on. If I were traveling to races, etc., we'd put some kind of interior rack in there, I guess. --D-y Actually, as these things go, minivans don't have a horrible safety rep. They're a far cry from some of the odd things that seem to go on when certain types of pickups and SUVs crash, or to put it another way: rollovers are serious crashes. What did your Camry do? I'm sorely tempted by the whole van-for-bikes thing, though I have to say that when you look at the interior room in something like a Mazda5, I think it would hold 2 people, 2 bikes, and luggage for a weekend (well, I don't know if the rear seats come out of that). I can fit a bike in my New Beetle, mind, plus I have a roof-rack that allows it to impersonate the Barnum & Bailey Team Support Car. Two bikes is a bit sloppy. The number of not-especially-big wagons that will accommodate multiple bikes in the back, laid flat, is vast. And trailers, btw, are awesome. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them." |
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