Astana's voluntary radio ban

It looks like someone in the Astana camp forgot a suitcase and left the
radios at home:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tdu-...champion-davis

Fortunately it's early in the season and the Astana riders are already
gaining a valuable lesson in not leaving the leader behind, and the
leader is gaining a valuable lesson in keeping his eyes open. Riders
have been reliant on radios for too long and ride stupidly without them.
Perhaps with the experience gained from TDU Astana will be riding a
little smarter during the other radio-free races this year.

Op 20-01-10 8:17, Kyle Legate wrote:
Fortunately it's early in the season and the Astana riders are already
gaining a valuable lesson in not leaving the leader behind, and the
leader is gaining a valuable lesson in keeping his eyes open. Riders
have been reliant on radios for too long and ride stupidly without them.
Perhaps with the experience gained from TDU Astana will be riding a
little smarter during the other radio-free races this year.

That, but more importantly: Allan Davis is fat and slow right now. I
think he just got dropped for real on that little climb and "no radio"
was a convenient excuse.

A. Dumas wrote:
That, but more importantly: Allan Davis is fat and slow right now. I
think he just got dropped for real on that little climb and "no radio"
was a convenient excuse.

Now you're giving FMs a new excuse.

"Kyle Legate" wrote in message
...
It looks like someone in the Astana camp forgot a suitcase and left the
radios at home:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tdu-...champion-davis

Fortunately it's early in the season and the Astana riders are already
gaining a valuable lesson in not leaving the leader behind, and the leader
is gaining a valuable lesson in keeping his eyes open. Riders have been
reliant on radios for too long and ride stupidly without them. Perhaps
with the experience gained from TDU Astana will be riding a little smarter
during the other radio-free races this year.



Dumbass -

I've been saying exactly what you just said since they announced the radio
ban and there are more than a few in this group who think the ban isn't
going to change anything.

It's gonna change a lot of things.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

On Jan 20, 10:38*pm, "Kurgan Gringioni"
wrote:
"Kyle Legate" wrote in message

...

It looks like someone in the Astana camp forgot a suitcase and left the
radios at home:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tdu-...defending-cham...

Fortunately it's early in the season and the Astana riders are already
gaining a valuable lesson in not leaving the leader behind, and the leader
is gaining a valuable lesson in keeping his eyes open. Riders have been
reliant on radios for too long and ride stupidly without them. Perhaps
with the experience gained from TDU Astana will be riding a little smarter
during the other radio-free races this year.

Dumbass -

I've been saying exactly what you just said since they announced the radio
ban and there are more than a few in this group who think the ban isn't
going to change anything.

It's gonna change a lot of things.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

they'll still get manual communications and, well, cheat.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:57:17 -0800 (PST), Henry
wrote:

On Jan 20, 10:38*pm, "Kurgan Gringioni"
wrote:

Dumbass -

I've been saying exactly what you just said since they announced the radio
ban and there are more than a few in this group who think the ban isn't
going to change anything.

It's gonna change a lot of things.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

they'll still get manual communications and, well, cheat.


I think his is true. With today's high tech systems, the well-heeled
teams will send out a call for micro-miniaturization or other methods
of communicating and find ways to hide a receiver, maybe in the bike
and use a bluetooth receiver inside the helmet, or something even less
conspicuous.

Of course they could go very low-tech and have spotters in the crowds
for crucial races/stages.

"Kyle Legate" wrote in message
...
It looks like someone in the Astana camp forgot a suitcase and left the
radios at home:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tdu-...champion-davis

Fortunately it's early in the season and the Astana riders are already
gaining a valuable lesson in not leaving the leader behind, and the
leader is gaining a valuable lesson in keeping his eyes open. Riders have
been reliant on radios for too long and ride stupidly without them.
Perhaps with the experience gained from TDU Astana will be riding a
little smarter during the other radio-free races this year.



Dumbass -

I've been saying exactly what you just said since they announced the radio
ban and there are more than a few in this group who think the ban isn't
going to change anything.

It's gonna change a lot of things.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.


Having been in a team car during the TdF, it's an organized zoo out there,
and I just don't see how feeding (food & water) could work (safely) without
radio, at least on a challenging stage (and any stage can potentially become
challenging).

Or maybe it becomes a different race entirely, with each rider is left to
his own devices in terms of making sure he doesn't ride beyond his limit,
carries enough food to keep from bonking, whatever. Maybe we need to go back
to the old days and require that riders repair their own bikes and have to
carry their own spare tires? At one time they even had a limit for how much
water they were allowed to carry. Assassins!!!

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

On Jan 21, 9:32*am, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:57:17 -0800 (PST), Henry



wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:38*pm, "Kurgan Gringioni"
wrote:
Dumbass -

I've been saying exactly what you just said since they announced the radio
ban and there are more than a few in this group who think the ban isn't
going to change anything.

It's gonna change a lot of things.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

they'll still get manual communications and, well, cheat.

I think his is true. With today's high tech systems, the well-heeled
teams will send out a call for micro-miniaturization or other methods
of communicating and find ways to hide a receiver, maybe in the bike
and use a bluetooth receiver inside the helmet, or something even less
conspicuous.

Of course they could go very low-tech and have spotters in the crowds
for crucial races/stages.

saw a video of Lance swallowing a small sensor for measuring
(internal!) body temp during TT testing.
a receiver could be hidden "anywhere"
how about messages (or video !?) to the cycle computer ? they'd have
to get bigger batteries, or maybe a dynamo )

On 20-Jan-10 16:37, Mike Jacoubowsky a bien réfléchi et puis a déclaré...:

Having been in a team car during the TdF, it's an organized zoo out
there, and I just don't see how feeding (food & water) could work
(safely) without radio, at least on a challenging stage (and any stage
can potentially become challenging).

Or maybe it becomes a different race entirely, with each rider is left
to his own devices in terms of making sure he doesn't ride beyond his
limit, carries enough food to keep from bonking, whatever.









(I put in the necessary gap in logic with simple graphics, sometimes
understood as a lacuna.)











Maybe we need
to go back to the old days and require that riders repair their own
bikes and have to carry their own spare tires? At one time they even had
a limit for how much water they were allowed to carry. Assassins!!!

--Mike Jacoubowsky

--


Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message
...

Dumbass -

I've been saying exactly what you just said since they announced the
radio ban and there are more than a few in this group who think the ban
isn't going to change anything.

It's gonna change a lot of things.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.


Having been in a team car during the TdF, it's an organized zoo out there,
and I just don't see how feeding (food & water) could work (safely)
without radio, at least on a challenging stage (and any stage can
potentially become challenging).

snip



Dumbass -

Prior to what, 1996?, they did it without radios for 100 years.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.