adding eyelets so road bike can carry panniers

I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. I wanted to
have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for light
touring. Is this something a local welder can do or is it a
specialized job. Where can I buy eyelets?
Thanks
Fred

On Aug 16, 1:03*pm, Fred wrote:
I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. *I wanted to
have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for light
touring. *Is this something a local welder can do or is it a
specialized job. *Where can I buy eyelets?

Cheaper/easier ($15-60 vs. 60+) to just get a "new" fork that already
has
the eyelets (think ebay/craigslist/local used bike place). Save the
old fork
in case you want to sell the bicycle to a collector.

If you are nuts enough to insist on putting new eyelets on, any decent
frame shop will have the doo-dads and can braze them on for you. It
would be a terrible idea to have Cletus weld them on with his 180A
lincoln.

Or search google for: bicycle frame parts

On Aug 16, 11:03*am, Fred wrote:
I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. *I wanted to
have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for light
touring. *Is this something a local welder can do or is it a
specialized job. *Where can I buy eyelets?
Thanks
Fred

There are WAY too many options out there that would be better than
taking a torch to your frame.

Tubus makes a kit that adapts a rack to mount to your rear QR:
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-T...ting-13340.htm

If your rear dropouts have a large hole in the middle (like most
classic horizontal dropouts), you could use Blackburn Custom Eyelets:
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-B...-kit-17229.htm

One thing to bear in mind is that with the Paramount's presumably
short wheelbase, there's a very high probability that you'll have heel
strike problems even if you are able to get a rear rack mounted.
Although, that Tubus kit looks like it might be able to move the rack
back a little to get you some extra clearance.

Also, consider either a seatpost-mounted rack with pannier supports,
like this one:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=23450

or a large saddlebag, like so:
http://www.wallbike.com/carradice/camper.html

Any of the above seem better to me than altering your fame and/or fork.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:03:52 -0700, Fred wrote:

I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. I wanted to
have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for light
touring. Is this something a local welder can do or is it a specialized
job. Where can I buy eyelets? Thanks
Fred

A lot of framebuilders would be reluctant to add eyelets that are going
to be bearing a load (eyelets for fenders are another matter). Generally,
eyelets for racks are part of the same forging (or stamping or casting)
as the rest of the dropout.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:03:52 -0700, Fred wrote:
I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. I wanted to
have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for light
touring. Is this something a local welder can do or is it a specialized
job. Where can I buy eyelets? Thanks

Gary Young wrote:
A lot of framebuilders would be reluctant to add eyelets that are going
to be bearing a load (eyelets for fenders are another matter). Generally,
eyelets for racks are part of the same forging (or stamping or casting)
as the rest of the dropout.

Reluctant? really? It's a common procedure with a virtually-never
failure rate. We don't just stick 'em on.

to OP: consult a competent frame shop; they will have appropriate
materials on hand. If it's chromed this is more than a quick job.

p.s. 'brazed' not 'welded' btw.
--
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www.yellowjersey.org/
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Gary Young wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:03:52 -0700, Fred wrote:

I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. I wanted to
have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for light
touring. Is this something a local welder can do or is it a specialized
job. Where can I buy eyelets? Thanks
Fred

A lot of framebuilders would be reluctant to add eyelets that are going
to be bearing a load (eyelets for fenders are another matter). Generally,
eyelets for racks are part of the same forging (or stamping or casting)
as the rest of the dropout.

If you're talking about low-rider bosses, I'd agree - the fork has to be
designed for that sort of thing.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:25:21 -0500, A Muzi wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:03:52 -0700, Fred wrote:
I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. I wanted to
have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for light
touring. Is this something a local welder can do or is it a
specialized job. Where can I buy eyelets? Thanks

Gary Young wrote:
A lot of framebuilders would be reluctant to add eyelets that are going
to be bearing a load (eyelets for fenders are another matter).
Generally, eyelets for racks are part of the same forging (or stamping
or casting) as the rest of the dropout.

Reluctant? really? It's a common procedure with a virtually-never
failure rate. We don't just stick 'em on.


I stand corrected. I probably got that impression from Tim Paterek's
manual. He says, "If there are no eyelets on the dropouts, do not attempt
to install brazed-on eyelets to support the weight of a fully loaded
touring rack! They will break off eventually!" Though even he says it's
OK for light-duty uses.


to OP: consult a competent frame shop; they will have appropriate
materials on hand. If it's chromed this is more than a quick job.

p.s. 'brazed' not 'welded' btw.

In article
,
Hank wrote:

On Aug 16, 11:03*am, Fred wrote:
I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. *I wanted
to have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for
light touring. *Is this something a local welder can do or is it a
specialized job. *Where can I buy eyelets? Thanks Fred

There are WAY too many options out there that would be better than
taking a torch to your frame.

snip

or a large saddlebag, like so:
http://www.wallbike.com/carradice/camper.html

Perhaps the best idea of the bunch. This method works great IMHO.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:18:04 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:

In article
,
Hank wrote:

On Aug 16, 11:03Â*am, Fred wrote:
I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. Â*I wanted
to have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for
light touring. Â*Is this something a local welder can do or is it a
specialized job. Â*Where can I buy eyelets? Thanks Fred

There are WAY too many options out there that would be better than
taking a torch to your frame.

snip

or a large saddlebag, like so:
http://www.wallbike.com/carradice/camper.html

Perhaps the best idea of the bunch. This method works great IMHO.


Or try a rack designed for this application:

http://www.cascadecyclery.com/cart/a...ad-rack-black-
p-9266.html

Zog The Undeniable wrote:
Gary Young wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:03:52 -0700, Fred wrote:

I have a steel Schwinn Paramount with a steel front fork. I wanted
to have eyelets welded onto the frame so I can carry panniers for
light touring. Is this something a local welder can do or is it a
specialized job. Where can I buy eyelets? Thanks
Fred

A lot of framebuilders would be reluctant to add eyelets that are
going to be bearing a load (eyelets for fenders are another matter).
Generally, eyelets for racks are part of the same forging (or
stamping or casting) as the rest of the dropout.

If you're talking about low-rider bosses, I'd agree - the fork has to
be designed for that sort of thing.

'P' Clips (Google is your friend) work well here in the UK - Check that they are plastic or rubber coated.


--
Colin N.

Lincolnshire is mostly flat ... But the wind is mostly in your face