I need a new kickstand

I knew this was coming. I've been using the same Greenfield aluminum alloy
kickstand for about 10 years on my GT mountain bike, which has become much
more of a road and path bike since I turned forty. This summer, I added a
pannier over my left wheel and, little-by-little, the amount of crap I pack
it with has snowballed.

Yesterday, I was out on eastern Long Island with a full load of wallets,
cell phones, mp3 players -- basically all the must-have junk my riding
buddies didn't have room on their own bikes for -- and I set the kickstand -
not knowing it would be for the last time. Suddenly, the aluminum alloy
post snapped in half under the weight of the pannier, sending the bike and
all its contents crashing to the sidewalk. Fortunately, nothing in the
pannier was damaged.

Anyway, now I need a new kickstand, and NO, I won't let anybody convince me
otherwise. There's just nothing to lean a bike against these days.

So my question is, given the additional weight I've added to the kickstand
side of the bike, can anybody recommend something a little more heavy duty
than the Greenfield? Or should I just replace what I had before?

Thanks for your suggestions!

Papa Tom wrote:
I knew this was coming. I've been using the same Greenfield aluminum alloy
kickstand for about 10 years on my GT mountain bike, which has become much
more of a road and path bike since I turned forty. This summer, I added a
pannier over my left wheel and, little-by-little, the amount of crap I pack
it with has snowballed.

Yesterday, I was out on eastern Long Island with a full load of wallets,
cell phones, mp3 players -- basically all the must-have junk my riding
buddies didn't have room on their own bikes for -- and I set the kickstand -
not knowing it would be for the last time. Suddenly, the aluminum alloy
post snapped in half under the weight of the pannier, sending the bike and
all its contents crashing to the sidewalk. Fortunately, nothing in the
pannier was damaged.

Anyway, now I need a new kickstand, and NO, I won't let anybody convince me
otherwise. There's just nothing to lean a bike against these days.

So my question is, given the additional weight I've added to the kickstand
side of the bike, can anybody recommend something a little more heavy duty
than the Greenfield? Or should I just replace what I had before?

Thanks for your suggestions!



Take a look at what I put on my bike using a double kickstand.
http://www.commuteorlando.com/galler...?g2_itemId=191
(server a little slow at the moment)

On Aug 18, 1:23*pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:
I knew this was coming. *I've been using the same Greenfield aluminum alloy
kickstand for about 10 years on my GT mountain bike, which has become much
more of a road and path bike since I turned forty. *This summer, I added a
pannier over my left wheel and, little-by-little, the amount of crap I pack
it with has snowballed.

Yesterday, I was out on eastern Long Island with a full load of wallets,
cell phones, mp3 players -- basically all the must-have junk my riding
buddies didn't have room on their own bikes for -- and I set the kickstand -
not knowing it would be for the last time. *Suddenly, the aluminum alloy
post snapped in half under the weight of the pannier, sending the bike and
all its contents crashing to the sidewalk. *Fortunately, nothing in the
pannier was damaged.

Anyway, now I need a new kickstand, and NO, I won't let anybody convince me
otherwise. *There's just nothing to lean a bike against these days.

So my question is, given the additional weight I've added to the kickstand
side of the bike, can anybody recommend something a little more heavy duty
than the Greenfield? *Or should I just replace what I had before?

Can't beat the Greenfield for the money. Splurge and get yourself a
little rubber foot this time! It's only once a decade.

Alternately you could get an Esge double footed number--but if the
Greenfield works, why change?

I saw one of those double kickstands online today. Looks like a neat gizmo.
Does it lift both tires off the ground?

"Eric Vey" wrote in message
...
Papa Tom wrote:
I knew this was coming. I've been using the same Greenfield aluminum
alloy kickstand for about 10 years on my GT mountain bike, which has
become much more of a road and path bike since I turned forty. This
summer, I added a pannier over my left wheel and, little-by-little, the
amount of crap I pack it with has snowballed.

Yesterday, I was out on eastern Long Island with a full load of wallets,
cell phones, mp3 players -- basically all the must-have junk my riding
buddies didn't have room on their own bikes for -- and I set the
kickstand - not knowing it would be for the last time. Suddenly, the
aluminum alloy post snapped in half under the weight of the pannier,
sending the bike and all its contents crashing to the sidewalk.
Fortunately, nothing in the pannier was damaged.

Anyway, now I need a new kickstand, and NO, I won't let anybody convince
me otherwise. There's just nothing to lean a bike against these days.

So my question is, given the additional weight I've added to the
kickstand side of the bike, can anybody recommend something a little more
heavy duty than the Greenfield? Or should I just replace what I had
before?

Thanks for your suggestions!

Take a look at what I put on my bike using a double kickstand.
http://www.commuteorlando.com/galler...?g2_itemId=191
(server a little slow at the moment)

Alternately you could get an Esge double footed number--but if the
Greenfield works, why change?

I'm happy to see that Greenfield now has a model with a cut-out to allow the
gear cable to pass through unobstructed. I'm just wondering if the
Greenfield is strong enough to support the extra load I'm carrying now.
Spoke to one of the company owners today (I didn't realize they are right
out here on Long Island) and didn't get much help. It's not that he wasn't
trying. It's mostly that I called with a dopey question and didn't realize
I'd be speaking with a company principle who had much more important things
to do.


"landotter" wrote in message
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On Aug 18, 1:23 pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:
I knew this was coming. I've been using the same Greenfield aluminum alloy
kickstand for about 10 years on my GT mountain bike, which has become much
more of a road and path bike since I turned forty. This summer, I added a
pannier over my left wheel and, little-by-little, the amount of crap I
pack
it with has snowballed.

Yesterday, I was out on eastern Long Island with a full load of wallets,
cell phones, mp3 players -- basically all the must-have junk my riding
buddies didn't have room on their own bikes for -- and I set the
kickstand -
not knowing it would be for the last time. Suddenly, the aluminum alloy
post snapped in half under the weight of the pannier, sending the bike and
all its contents crashing to the sidewalk. Fortunately, nothing in the
pannier was damaged.

Anyway, now I need a new kickstand, and NO, I won't let anybody convince
me
otherwise. There's just nothing to lean a bike against these days.

So my question is, given the additional weight I've added to the kickstand
side of the bike, can anybody recommend something a little more heavy duty
than the Greenfield? Or should I just replace what I had before?

Can't beat the Greenfield for the money. Splurge and get yourself a
little rubber foot this time! It's only once a decade.

Alternately you could get an Esge double footed number--but if the
Greenfield works, why change?

On 2008-08-18, Papa Tom wrote:
Alternately you could get an Esge double footed number--but if the
Greenfield works, why change?

I'm happy to see that Greenfield now has a model with a cut-out to allow the
gear cable to pass through unobstructed. I'm just wondering if the
Greenfield is strong enough to support the extra load I'm carrying now.
Spoke to one of the company owners today (I didn't realize they are right
out here on Long Island) and didn't get much help. It's not that he wasn't
trying. It's mostly that I called with a dopey question and didn't realize
I'd be speaking with a company principle who had much more important things
to do.

More then strong enough. It most likely broke due to ten years of use
and fatigue, and perhaps the odd crash not the new load.
Cheers

Joel

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On Aug 18, 4:20*pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:
Alternately you could get an Esge double footed number--but if the
Greenfield works, why change?

I'm happy to see that Greenfield now has a model with a cut-out to allow the
gear cable to pass through unobstructed.

I just drilled my top plate.



*I'm just wondering if the
Greenfield is strong enough to support the extra load I'm carrying now.

Probably--if it balances, but cast aluminum does have a fatigue life.
It was ten years old, get a spare if you're worried--they're cheap.

Papa Tom wrote:
I saw one of those double kickstands online today. Looks like a neat gizmo.
Does it lift both tires off the ground?

"Eric Vey" wrote in message
...
Papa Tom wrote:
I knew this was coming. I've been using the same Greenfield aluminum
alloy kickstand for about 10 years on my GT mountain bike, which has
become much more of a road and path bike since I turned forty. This
summer, I added a pannier over my left wheel and, little-by-little, the
amount of crap I pack it with has snowballed.

Yesterday, I was out on eastern Long Island with a full load of wallets,
cell phones, mp3 players -- basically all the must-have junk my riding
buddies didn't have room on their own bikes for -- and I set the
kickstand - not knowing it would be for the last time. Suddenly, the
aluminum alloy post snapped in half under the weight of the pannier,
sending the bike and all its contents crashing to the sidewalk.
Fortunately, nothing in the pannier was damaged.

Anyway, now I need a new kickstand, and NO, I won't let anybody convince
me otherwise. There's just nothing to lean a bike against these days.

So my question is, given the additional weight I've added to the
kickstand side of the bike, can anybody recommend something a little more
heavy duty than the Greenfield? Or should I just replace what I had
before?

Thanks for your suggestions!
Take a look at what I put on my bike using a double kickstand.
http://www.commuteorlando.com/galler...?g2_itemId=191
(server a little slow at the moment)



Like a motorcycle, just one and which one depends on where the the clamp
is located. No good on sloped ground unless pointing up or down the
slope. Also no good if basket contents exceed 10 pounds off center.

On Aug 18, 1:23*pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:
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So my question is, given the additional weight I've added to the kickstand
side of the bike, can anybody recommend something a little more heavy duty
than the Greenfield? *Or should I just replace what I had before?

Thanks for your suggestions!

You should put most of the weight on the other side. When you lean it
over, most of the weight remains on the tire then.

I had one bicycle with wire baskets. I could put two 12 packs of 12
oz sodas on the chain side, and it would be OK. When I put one 12
pack of 12 oz sodas on the kickstand side, the bike would start fall
over, even with the two 12 packs of 12 oz sodas on that side.
Unbalanced, but that is how the kickstand worked.

aka Mike Schwab wrote:
On Aug 18, 1:23 pm, "Papa Tom" wrote:
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So my question is, given the additional weight I've added to the kickstand
side of the bike, can anybody recommend something a little more heavy duty
than the Greenfield? Or should I just replace what I had before?

Thanks for your suggestions!

You should put most of the weight on the other side. When you lean it
over, most of the weight remains on the tire then.

I had one bicycle with wire baskets. I could put two 12 packs of 12
oz sodas on the chain side, and it would be OK. When I put one 12
pack of 12 oz sodas on the kickstand side, the bike would start fall
over, even with the two 12 packs of 12 oz sodas on that side.
Unbalanced, but that is how the kickstand worked.

I would have told the story this way:

I had one bicycle with wire baskets. I could put two 12 packs of 12 oz
beer cans on the chain side, and it would be OK. When I put one 12 pack
of 12 oz beers on the kickstand side, the bike would start fall over,
even with the two 12 packs of 12 oz beer on that side. Unbalanced, but
that is how the kickstand worked.

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“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”