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  #11  
Old April 30th 20, 02:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:38:54 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 3:27:30 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/29/2020 5:01 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:18:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device company called Aytu
Biosciences which since 2016 has been making a UV light
catheter for use against resistant lung infections. (there
are patents on similar US ideas going back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible
therapy for the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a
promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

What happened in 1833?

The way the Democrats slaver for ten million American to die from coronavirus so they can move their senile hypocrite candidate into the White House is disgusting.

I welcomed the internet as Liberty Hall, empowering a voice for everyman without the editorial interference of people who were at school with me.. I was wrong. What Everyman most wants is to shut up Everybody except himself, preferably permanently.

Andre Jute
Empowering -- what an odd word for the virulent disease the social media have become


The last notable iteration was in 1633, Trial of Galileo.


O.K., so a private company like Twitter and YouTube excluding someone from its private platform is the Inquisition? Look at it this way, Twitter and YouTube are exercising their free speech rights, which includes the right to not speak or support the speech of others. Nobody got stretched on the rack, boiled in oil or thrown in the iron maiden, dude. https://www.youtube..com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU

-- Jay Beattie.


Dude yourself, dickhead. If you were a real Liberal (like me for instance) you'd want Facebook, all the Alphabet companies surrounding Google like a defensive army, and of course Google itself, a very great malefactor, plus Amazon investigated for being vertical monopolies, charged, convicted and forced to break up so that there could be real competition, in which case, eventually, at long last you'd become right -- it's that poor blind squirrel eventually finding a nut, which so impressed you a few days ago. As it is, Facebook and the clowns at Twitter etc pass social sentences of death because they dominate the market to such an extent that there is no room for anyone else to breathe; it's the electronic equivalent of the Amish curse of shunning. The effect of a handful of such monsters in the market has been known in the theoretical literature since 1933 when Joan Robinson first formulated the practical theory of oligopoly to stand beside the theory of monopoly: of course the practice of oligopoly was known since the time Standard Oil was inadequately broken up, but naming an describing it was and remains an important. Technically, oligopolists do not produce units below the marginal one in the hope of clearing the market; they operate at so few units above the marginal one that the capital cost -- and risk -- kills any possibility for startups, no matter how innovative, to take them on. Apple has already been burned by Robinson's ghost: in Apple v Pepper in 2019 the Supreme court used her monopsony formulation (about the one-sided wage-setting power of these huge oligopolies) to decide against Apple.

Andre Jute
One good reason to reelect Mr Trump is that his anointed AG, Mr Barr, isn't frightened of smashing shibboleths
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  #12  
Old April 30th 20, 02:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:22:36 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 6:37:31 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 1:38:44 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 5:02:45 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/29/2020 4:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device companyÂ* called Aytu Biosciences
which since 2016 has been making a UV light catheter for use against
resistant lung infections. (there are patents on similar US ideas going
back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible therapy for
the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!

Here's a less breathless account of the YouTube incident:
https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/...-a-video-about

Looks like you can still see the video (really, a teasing advertisement)
at https://aytubio.com/ if you like.

--
- Frank Krygowski


It's a f****** proposed prototype. Its not approved or in use or anything more than a concept. And if you think it's the second coming, load up on Aytu Bioscience stock. Its $1.62 a share -- and dropping. What's next? Laetrile? Forsythia? Leaches? I'll wait for Trumps next tweet -- maybe its something I already have around the house, like huffing toothpaste.

-- Jay Beattie.


It seems likely that you mean leeches, rather than "leaches" -- which, considering how they turn a human tan anaemic, might be an aptly Dickensian misspelling -- fornicating or otherwise.


My apologies to the leech community for misspelling "leech." No disrespect was intended.

-- Jay Beattie.


Yes, but did you squash any leeches in the process, so that they could leach no more?

Andre Jute
No horses were hurt in the making of this thread, nor dogs either
  #13  
Old April 30th 20, 02:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

This whole thread is an interesting study in the reactions of the Left. Note how they all want bureaucratic barriers thrown up to what may or may not be a good idea, as they did for chemical alleviation or possible cure for the coronavirus, simply because the President spoke favourably of these possibilities. There are a lot of real sick puppies in the Donkey Party, vomiting up their bile over a whole nation.

Contrast the reaction in Britain: See:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52309294

Andre Jute
Why?

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:18:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device company called Aytu
Biosciences which since 2016 has been making a UV light
catheter for use against resistant lung infections. (there
are patents on similar US ideas going back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible
therapy for the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a
promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  #14  
Old April 30th 20, 02:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On 4/29/2020 9:38 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 3:27:30 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/29/2020 5:01 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:18:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device company called Aytu
Biosciences which since 2016 has been making a UV light
catheter for use against resistant lung infections. (there
are patents on similar US ideas going back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible
therapy for the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a
promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

What happened in 1833?

The way the Democrats slaver for ten million American to die from coronavirus so they can move their senile hypocrite candidate into the White House is disgusting.

I welcomed the internet as Liberty Hall, empowering a voice for everyman without the editorial interference of people who were at school with me. I was wrong. What Everyman most wants is to shut up Everybody except himself, preferably permanently.

Andre Jute
Empowering -- what an odd word for the virulent disease the social media have become


The last notable iteration was in 1633, Trial of Galileo.


O.K., so a private company like Twitter and YouTube excluding someone from its private platform is the Inquisition? Look at it this way, Twitter and YouTube are exercising their free speech rights, which includes the right to not speak or support the speech of others. Nobody got stretched on the rack, boiled in oil or thrown in the iron maiden, dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU

-- Jay Beattie.


Agreed. It's their right.
If that's their behavior they ought to wear it proudly and
not pretend to be some neutral arbiter.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #15  
Old April 30th 20, 02:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On 4/30/2020 8:11 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:38:54 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 3:27:30 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/29/2020 5:01 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:18:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device company called Aytu
Biosciences which since 2016 has been making a UV light
catheter for use against resistant lung infections. (there
are patents on similar US ideas going back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible
therapy for the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a
promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

What happened in 1833?

The way the Democrats slaver for ten million American to die from coronavirus so they can move their senile hypocrite candidate into the White House is disgusting.

I welcomed the internet as Liberty Hall, empowering a voice for everyman without the editorial interference of people who were at school with me. I was wrong. What Everyman most wants is to shut up Everybody except himself, preferably permanently.

Andre Jute
Empowering -- what an odd word for the virulent disease the social media have become


The last notable iteration was in 1633, Trial of Galileo.


O.K., so a private company like Twitter and YouTube excluding someone from its private platform is the Inquisition? Look at it this way, Twitter and YouTube are exercising their free speech rights, which includes the right to not speak or support the speech of others. Nobody got stretched on the rack, boiled in oil or thrown in the iron maiden, dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU

-- Jay Beattie.


Dude yourself, dickhead. If you were a real Liberal (like me for instance) you'd want Facebook, all the Alphabet companies surrounding Google like a defensive army, and of course Google itself, a very great malefactor, plus Amazon investigated for being vertical monopolies, charged, convicted and forced to break up so that there could be real competition, in which case, eventually, at long last you'd become right -- it's that poor blind squirrel eventually finding a nut, which so impressed you a few days ago. As it is, Facebook and the clowns at Twitter etc pass social sentences of death because they dominate the market to such an extent that there is no room for anyone else to breathe; it's the electronic equivalent of the Amish curse of shunning. The effect of a handful of such monsters in the market has been known in the theoretical literature since 1933 when Joan Robinson first formulated the practical theory of oligopoly to stand beside the theory of monopoly: of course the p

ractice of oligopoly was known since the time Standard Oil was inadequately broken up, but naming an describing it was and remains an important. Technically, oligopolists do not produce units below the marginal one in the hope of clearing the market; they operate at so few units above the marginal one that the capital cost -- and risk -- kills any possibility for startups, no matter how innovative, to take them on. Apple has already been burned by Robinson's ghost: in Apple v Pepper in 2019 the Supreme court used her monopsony formulation (about the one-sided wage-setting power of these huge oligopolies) to decide against Apple.

Andre Jute
One good reason to reelect Mr Trump is that his anointed AG, Mr Barr, isn't frightened of smashing shibboleths


Another take on this is that, just like a newspaper editor
who spews filth daily these outfits ere entitled to their
opinions, however rancid those might be. You don't like the
editorials on the front page or Krugman in the back? Don't
buy a NYT. Ditto for social media - don't go there if you
dislike their party line. I have never walked into a WalMart
either. Make your choice yourself.

My annoyance is with their so far successful subterfuge that
they are some neutral service when, like Snopes, they have a
decidedly persistent bias.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #16  
Old April 30th 20, 03:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:11:43 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:38:54 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 3:27:30 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/29/2020 5:01 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:18:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device company called Aytu
Biosciences which since 2016 has been making a UV light
catheter for use against resistant lung infections. (there
are patents on similar US ideas going back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible
therapy for the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a
promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

What happened in 1833?

The way the Democrats slaver for ten million American to die from coronavirus so they can move their senile hypocrite candidate into the White House is disgusting.

I welcomed the internet as Liberty Hall, empowering a voice for everyman without the editorial interference of people who were at school with me. I was wrong. What Everyman most wants is to shut up Everybody except himself, preferably permanently.

Andre Jute
Empowering -- what an odd word for the virulent disease the social media have become


The last notable iteration was in 1633, Trial of Galileo.


O.K., so a private company like Twitter and YouTube excluding someone from its private platform is the Inquisition? Look at it this way, Twitter and YouTube are exercising their free speech rights, which includes the right to not speak or support the speech of others. Nobody got stretched on the rack, boiled in oil or thrown in the iron maiden, dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU

-- Jay Beattie.


Dude yourself, dickhead. If you were a real Liberal (like me for instance) you'd want Facebook, all the Alphabet companies surrounding Google like a defensive army, and of course Google itself, a very great malefactor, plus Amazon investigated for being vertical monopolies, charged, convicted and forced to break up so that there could be real competition, in which case, eventually, at long last you'd become right -- it's that poor blind squirrel eventually finding a nut, which so impressed you a few days ago. As it is, Facebook and the clowns at Twitter etc pass social sentences of death because they dominate the market to such an extent that there is no room for anyone else to breathe; it's the electronic equivalent of the Amish curse of shunning. The effect of a handful of such monsters in the market has been known in the theoretical literature since 1933 when Joan Robinson first formulated the practical theory of oligopoly to stand beside the theory of monopoly: of course the practice of oligopoly was known since the time Standard Oil was inadequately broken up, but naming an describing it was and remains an important. Technically, oligopolists do not produce units below the marginal one in the hope of clearing the market; they operate at so few units above the marginal one that the capital cost -- and risk -- kills any possibility for startups, no matter how innovative, to take them on. Apple has already been burned by Robinson's ghost: in Apple v Pepper in 2019 the Supreme court used her monopsony formulation (about the one-sided wage-setting power of these huge oligopolies) to decide against Apple.

Andre Jute


Thank you for the tedious and fractured discussion of anti-trust, but what does that have to do with the right of YouTube, Twitter or other internet platforms to exclude users in accordance withe the express terms of its user agreements -- or for any reason? You can huff and sputter and stomp your feet, but there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it except not patronize the site. https://www.scribd.com/document/4489...ion#from_embed

-- Jay Beattie.


  #17  
Old April 30th 20, 03:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:28:06 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
This whole thread is an interesting study in the reactions of the Left. Note how they all want bureaucratic barriers thrown up to what may or may not be a good idea, as they did for chemical alleviation or possible cure for the coronavirus, simply because the President spoke favourably of these possibilities. There are a lot of real sick puppies in the Donkey Party, vomiting up their bile over a whole nation.

Contrast the reaction in Britain: See:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52309294


Contrast that to what? I don't see the UK approving UV endoscopes or Lysol injections. They're trialing chloroquine just like the US. Considering that ventilators are old technology, I would assume that any manufacturer could get 510(k) fast-track approval. And the existing market can ramp up, or we can move the existing stock -- which is what we're doing. https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavir...-together.html

The non-insane (which you call the Donkey party) simply want public health decisions made based on science and data rather than "you know, I feel good about this . . . I think it could be perfect, beautiful -- you know a cure.. It will save a lot of lives. I think so, and you know, people have told me
I'm smart. I have a feeling for this."

-- Jay Beattie.

  #18  
Old April 30th 20, 03:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Posts: 10,422
Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 2:55:04 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/30/2020 8:11 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:38:54 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 3:27:30 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/29/2020 5:01 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:18:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device company called Aytu
Biosciences which since 2016 has been making a UV light
catheter for use against resistant lung infections. (there
are patents on similar US ideas going back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible
therapy for the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a
promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

What happened in 1833?

The way the Democrats slaver for ten million American to die from coronavirus so they can move their senile hypocrite candidate into the White House is disgusting.

I welcomed the internet as Liberty Hall, empowering a voice for everyman without the editorial interference of people who were at school with me. I was wrong. What Everyman most wants is to shut up Everybody except himself, preferably permanently.

Andre Jute
Empowering -- what an odd word for the virulent disease the social media have become


The last notable iteration was in 1633, Trial of Galileo.

O.K., so a private company like Twitter and YouTube excluding someone from its private platform is the Inquisition? Look at it this way, Twitter and YouTube are exercising their free speech rights, which includes the right to not speak or support the speech of others. Nobody got stretched on the rack, boiled in oil or thrown in the iron maiden, dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU

-- Jay Beattie.


Dude yourself, dickhead. If you were a real Liberal (like me for instance) you'd want Facebook, all the Alphabet companies surrounding Google like a defensive army, and of course Google itself, a very great malefactor, plus Amazon investigated for being vertical monopolies, charged, convicted and forced to break up so that there could be real competition, in which case, eventually, at long last you'd become right -- it's that poor blind squirrel eventually finding a nut, which so impressed you a few days ago. As it is, Facebook and the clowns at Twitter etc pass social sentences of death because they dominate the market to such an extent that there is no room for anyone else to breathe; it's the electronic equivalent of the Amish curse of shunning. The effect of a handful of such monsters in the market has been known in the theoretical literature since 1933 when Joan Robinson first formulated the practical theory of oligopoly to stand beside the theory of monopoly: of course the p

ractice of oligopoly was known since the time Standard Oil was inadequately broken up, but naming an describing it was and remains an important. Technically, oligopolists do not produce units below the marginal one in the hope of clearing the market; they operate at so few units above the marginal one that the capital cost -- and risk -- kills any possibility for startups, no matter how innovative, to take them on. Apple has already been burned by Robinson's ghost: in Apple v Pepper in 2019 the Supreme court used her monopsony formulation (about the one-sided wage-setting power of these huge oligopolies) to decide against Apple.

Andre Jute
One good reason to reelect Mr Trump is that his anointed AG, Mr Barr, isn't frightened of smashing shibboleths


Another take on this is that, just like a newspaper editor
who spews filth daily these outfits ere entitled to their
opinions, however rancid those might be. You don't like the
editorials on the front page or Krugman in the back? Don't
buy a NYT. Ditto for social media - don't go there if you
dislike their party line. I have never walked into a WalMart
either. Make your choice yourself.

My annoyance is with their so far successful subterfuge that
they are some neutral service when, like Snopes, they have a
decidedly persistent bias.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


I grasp all that. I find such transparent hypocrisy -- like their earlier prettiness that they were just using the public airwaves to bring people together -- hilarious.

But it is a very serious matter when they deliberately close competition out of the market by buying up all the smaller firms and technologies before they can start cutting into their own profits. And they all do it. That is how Microsoft grew and, to a lesser extent, Apple, even if only because Steve Jobs was a proud man who liked in-house innovations. Bill Gates was rapped lightly over the knuckles for it, and it is time for Mr Barr to set up a hungry office of Trust Busters. The Mueller enquiry would be a very good model -- let's give the ****ers some of their own medicine!

Andre Jute
Pigouvian
  #19  
Old April 30th 20, 03:48 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:12:08 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:11:43 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:38:54 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 3:27:30 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/29/2020 5:01 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:18:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device company called Aytu
Biosciences which since 2016 has been making a UV light
catheter for use against resistant lung infections. (there
are patents on similar US ideas going back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible
therapy for the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a
promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

What happened in 1833?

The way the Democrats slaver for ten million American to die from coronavirus so they can move their senile hypocrite candidate into the White House is disgusting.

I welcomed the internet as Liberty Hall, empowering a voice for everyman without the editorial interference of people who were at school with me. I was wrong. What Everyman most wants is to shut up Everybody except himself, preferably permanently.

Andre Jute
Empowering -- what an odd word for the virulent disease the social media have become


The last notable iteration was in 1633, Trial of Galileo.

O.K., so a private company like Twitter and YouTube excluding someone from its private platform is the Inquisition? Look at it this way, Twitter and YouTube are exercising their free speech rights, which includes the right to not speak or support the speech of others. Nobody got stretched on the rack, boiled in oil or thrown in the iron maiden, dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU

-- Jay Beattie.


Dude yourself, dickhead. If you were a real Liberal (like me for instance) you'd want Facebook, all the Alphabet companies surrounding Google like a defensive army, and of course Google itself, a very great malefactor, plus Amazon investigated for being vertical monopolies, charged, convicted and forced to break up so that there could be real competition, in which case, eventually, at long last you'd become right -- it's that poor blind squirrel eventually finding a nut, which so impressed you a few days ago. As it is, Facebook and the clowns at Twitter etc pass social sentences of death because they dominate the market to such an extent that there is no room for anyone else to breathe; it's the electronic equivalent of the Amish curse of shunning. The effect of a handful of such monsters in the market has been known in the theoretical literature since 1933 when Joan Robinson first formulated the practical theory of oligopoly to stand beside the theory of monopoly: of course the practice of oligopoly was known since the time Standard Oil was inadequately broken up, but naming an describing it was and remains an important. Technically, oligopolists do not produce units below the marginal one in the hope of clearing the market; they operate at so few units above the marginal one that the capital cost -- and risk -- kills any possibility for startups, no matter how innovative, to take them on. Apple has already been burned by Robinson's ghost: in Apple v Pepper in 2019 the Supreme court used her monopsony formulation (about the one-sided wage-setting power of these huge oligopolies) to decide against Apple.

Andre Jute


Thank you for the tedious and fractured discussion of anti-trust, but what does that have to do with the right of YouTube, Twitter or other internet platforms to exclude users in accordance withe the express terms of its user agreements -- or for any reason? You can huff and sputter and stomp your feet, but there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it except not patronize the site. https://www.scribd.com/document/4489...ion#from_embed

-- Jay Beattie.


"Tedius and fractured", eh? You're foaming at the mouth, Jay. If I thought you knew any of that, I wouldn't have told you, including a couple of subtle references to where you can lean more. And, sure, there is a link between anti-trust law and the behaviour of Facebook, Twitter, Google, Amazon et al: they are using the public airwaves to build their illegal dominance. I'd expect even a Portland insurance lawyer to see and admit that, if he were honest, and not inflamed by Donkey politics.

Andre Jute
A dog doesn't deserve the stupidity that the 2016 election of Donald Trump inflicted on the Democrats
  #20  
Old April 30th 20, 03:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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Posts: 10,422
Default It's not science until Pope Urban VIII says so

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 2:47:09 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/29/2020 9:38 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 3:27:30 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/29/2020 5:01 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 9:18:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
Mr Josh Disbrow runs a medical device company called Aytu
Biosciences which since 2016 has been making a UV light
catheter for use against resistant lung infections. (there
are patents on similar US ideas going back to 2011).

Then last week, the President mentioned that as a possible
therapy for the Wuhan Bioweapon.
Not their company by name, only that internal UV may be a
promising area.

YouTube closed the company's video channel.
Then Vimeo did as well.
Then Twitter closed the company account.
They are inundated with hate mail.

Welcome to our new world, just like 1633 all over again!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

What happened in 1833?

The way the Democrats slaver for ten million American to die from coronavirus so they can move their senile hypocrite candidate into the White House is disgusting.

I welcomed the internet as Liberty Hall, empowering a voice for everyman without the editorial interference of people who were at school with me.. I was wrong. What Everyman most wants is to shut up Everybody except himself, preferably permanently.

Andre Jute
Empowering -- what an odd word for the virulent disease the social media have become


The last notable iteration was in 1633, Trial of Galileo.


O.K., so a private company like Twitter and YouTube excluding someone from its private platform is the Inquisition? Look at it this way, Twitter and YouTube are exercising their free speech rights, which includes the right to not speak or support the speech of others. Nobody got stretched on the rack, boiled in oil or thrown in the iron maiden, dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU

-- Jay Beattie.


Agreed. It's their right.
If that's their behavior they ought to wear it proudly and
not pretend to be some neutral arbiter.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


They're using the public airwaves and should regulate themselves accordingly for fear that they will be regulated by the people who own the airwaves through their elected representatives; Facebook, Google, Twitter and Amazon are the 21st century Tragedy of the Commons.

Andre Jute
It's not rocket science. Even Harvard dropouts should be able to grasp the principle.
 




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