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Don't hassle me - I'm riding my bike
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 20:49:11 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 8:21 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 20:40:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 6:50 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:12:09 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote: AMuzi wrote: https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys to anyone in sight. With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!" Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout. This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes, slowing your draw time. The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but some people get touchy about that. Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated! That's why most of them drive pickups. Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time. It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12 shillings: https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? You don't?? That's it, buddy - your retrogrouch card is revoked! Actually, the shorts I'm wearing as I type this have even better. It's an additional side pocket sized for a cell phone. One of those pistols could easily fit there. Not that I ride far in these... But side pockets and or (what do they call 'em?) britches with pockets on the legs? "Cargo Pants? Aren't "watch pockets. Unless, of course you consider an alarm clock a "watch" :-) And besides the traditional method for a gentleman to carry a "pocket" pistol is in his vest pocket. Ladies, of course, can easily carry one in their muff :-) -- Cheers, John B. Oh dear how our language has changed. :-) Well, it probably has. Or would one might say, "Ladies no longer have a muff" :-) But then, my grandmother used to refer to men as being a "gay sort of chap" meaning a happy sort of person. Today I guess the Old Dear would be ostracized for speaking badly of someone :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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Don't hassle me - I'm riding my bike
On 7/3/2020 9:01 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 20:49:11 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 8:21 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 20:40:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 6:50 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:12:09 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote: AMuzi wrote: https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys to anyone in sight. With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!" Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout. This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes, slowing your draw time. The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but some people get touchy about that. Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated! That's why most of them drive pickups. Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time. It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12 shillings: https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? You don't?? That's it, buddy - your retrogrouch card is revoked! Actually, the shorts I'm wearing as I type this have even better. It's an additional side pocket sized for a cell phone. One of those pistols could easily fit there. Not that I ride far in these... But side pockets and or (what do they call 'em?) britches with pockets on the legs? "Cargo Pants? Aren't "watch pockets. Unless, of course you consider an alarm clock a "watch" :-) And besides the traditional method for a gentleman to carry a "pocket" pistol is in his vest pocket. Ladies, of course, can easily carry one in their muff :-) Oh dear how our language has changed. :-) Well, it probably has. Or would one might say, "Ladies no longer have a muff" :-) But then, my grandmother used to refer to men as being a "gay sort of chap" meaning a happy sort of person. Today I guess the Old Dear would be ostracized for speaking badly of someone :-) I thought about this for a moment, but what the hell: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=muff -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:50:05 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 It's very sad when bicyclists feel like they need to pack a gun on a ride. If their neighbors are that dangerous, they oughta move. And you Andrew, again show that you obsess with the negative in the world. Maybe spend more time here? https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/ Andy |
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 08:01:52 +0700, John B.
wrote: Is this a style sort of thing? Bib Overalls? I haven't seen those for 50 years or so and when they were common they were, like a mechanic's "coveralls", primarily work clothing. Yep. Work overalls are the preferred fashion accessory for those who have never worked a day in their life. You can even buy them "distressed", to look like they've been on the job: https://www.google.com/search?q=distressed+jeans&tbm=isch I certainly don't remember seeing farm folks in town for the Saturday shopping wearing overalls. As for 5 pocket jeans, I guess the Levi's 501 still have a watch pocket :-) At some time in the distant past, the "fob pocket" may have been used as a watch pocket. Today, more like a coin or condom pocket: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/small-pocket-jeans-watches-cowboys_n_56a7720ce4b0b87beec5eb5f More than you probably wanted to know: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-our-jeans-have-a-tiny-pocket-just-above-the-front-pocket-Was-it-something-useful-that-was-added-or-is-it-just-a-fashion-thing But more to the point, are Levi's 501 or bib overalls, for that matter, acceptable bicycling clothes :-) Yes. Fashion has does not need to be practical: "Best Cycling Jeans for Men + Women [Top 5 in 2020]" https://discerningcyclist.com/best-cycling-jeans-men-women/ You may not recognize them as being jeans, especially by the price. There are companies that specialize in bicycle jeans: https://www.osloh.com Incidentally, I buy my jeans and "utility" clothes at the local thrift shops, flea markets, and garage sales. Anything that needs fixing gets sewn back together. This is my pile of jeans that went to the local thrift shop: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yqUiSwoCEvMMgpx48 These are the piles of jeans that I kept: https://photos.app.goo.gl/iUjxYP9JTdbTEwMK8 -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Don't hassle me - I'm riding my bike
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 21:14:20 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 9:01 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 20:49:11 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 8:21 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 20:40:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 6:50 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:12:09 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote: AMuzi wrote: https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys to anyone in sight. With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!" Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout. This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes, slowing your draw time. The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but some people get touchy about that. Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated! That's why most of them drive pickups. Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time. It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12 shillings: https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? You don't?? That's it, buddy - your retrogrouch card is revoked! Actually, the shorts I'm wearing as I type this have even better. It's an additional side pocket sized for a cell phone. One of those pistols could easily fit there. Not that I ride far in these... But side pockets and or (what do they call 'em?) britches with pockets on the legs? "Cargo Pants? Aren't "watch pockets. Unless, of course you consider an alarm clock a "watch" :-) And besides the traditional method for a gentleman to carry a "pocket" pistol is in his vest pocket. Ladies, of course, can easily carry one in their muff :-) Oh dear how our language has changed. :-) Well, it probably has. Or would one might say, "Ladies no longer have a muff" :-) But then, my grandmother used to refer to men as being a "gay sort of chap" meaning a happy sort of person. Today I guess the Old Dear would be ostracized for speaking badly of someone :-) I thought about this for a moment, but what the hell: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=muff Well, if you want to be crude and use non descriptive terms. But for your edification see the following for instructions on making a "muff" https://www.diy-crush.com/blog/make-...-ladies-child/ or a "Muff Pistol" https://www.firearmstalk.com/articles/muff-pistols.692/ or https://www.amazon.com/Denix-Replica.../dp/B008VEC0ZU or maybe "lady's essentials https://tinyurl.com/y9smrxhp or a pretty one https://tinyurl.com/yajaesno -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 20:02:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 08:01:52 +0700, John B. wrote: Is this a style sort of thing? Bib Overalls? I haven't seen those for 50 years or so and when they were common they were, like a mechanic's "coveralls", primarily work clothing. Yep. Work overalls are the preferred fashion accessory for those who have never worked a day in their life. You can even buy them "distressed", to look like they've been on the job: https://www.google.com/search?q=distressed+jeans&tbm=isch I certainly don't remember seeing farm folks in town for the Saturday shopping wearing overalls. As for 5 pocket jeans, I guess the Levi's 501 still have a watch pocket :-) At some time in the distant past, the "fob pocket" may have been used as a watch pocket. Today, more like a coin or condom pocket: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/small-pocket-jeans-watches-cowboys_n_56a7720ce4b0b87beec5eb5f More than you probably wanted to know: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-our-jeans-have-a-tiny-pocket-just-above-the-front-pocket-Was-it-something-useful-that-was-added-or-is-it-just-a-fashion-thing But more to the point, are Levi's 501 or bib overalls, for that matter, acceptable bicycling clothes :-) Yes. Fashion has does not need to be practical: "Best Cycling Jeans for Men + Women [Top 5 in 2020]" https://discerningcyclist.com/best-cycling-jeans-men-women/ You may not recognize them as being jeans, especially by the price. There are companies that specialize in bicycle jeans: https://www.osloh.com Incidentally, I buy my jeans and "utility" clothes at the local thrift shops, flea markets, and garage sales. Anything that needs fixing gets sewn back together. This is my pile of jeans that went to the local thrift shop: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yqUiSwoCEvMMgpx48 These are the piles of jeans that I kept: https://photos.app.goo.gl/iUjxYP9JTdbTEwMK8 I suppose it is unfortunate but I grew up in an era when a gentleman didn't wear blue jeans. In fact schools forbid them being worn when attending classes. But I suppose in an effort to show that one is just "one of the herd" so to speak, for those that have never actually engage in physical work, "work" clothes are now de rigueur. Just as walking about with a two day growth of beard is macho. Scruffy is now high fashion. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 05:50:56 +0700, John B.
wrote: Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? I have two in every pair of pants -- I got tired of sewing the pocket on the wrong side, so I put one on each side. But I don't think a pistol would fit, not even a three-inch pistol. I most often stash a lipstick in my watch pocket, or a key, or a coin. This is a fine example of "I don't know what I'd do with it if I had it, but I'd sure like to have one of them." Even if I wanted to go to the trouble of learning how to operate a gun safely, and then put in the time to maintain that ability, I don't think it would be wise to discharge a firearm so small with my arthritic old hands. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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On 7/3/2020 11:40 PM, John B. wrote:
I suppose it is unfortunate but I grew up in an era when a gentleman didn't wear blue jeans. In fact schools forbid them being worn when attending classes. But I suppose in an effort to show that one is just "one of the herd" so to speak, for those that have never actually engage in physical work, "work" clothes are now de rigueur. Just as walking about with a two day growth of beard is macho. Scruffy is now high fashion. And fashion is weird and powerful! One benefit of the current trend: It doesn't take a lot of effort to be a bit better dressed than most of the crowd. I usually don't care much about that, but if I'm going to a meeting of any kind, I think looking neater than the rest still confers a bit of subconscious advantage. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 7/3/2020 9:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 8:21 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 20:40:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 6:50 PM, John B. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:12:09 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote: AMuzi wrote: https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/ Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys to anyone in sight. With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart. Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!" Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout. This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets.Â* Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes, slowing your draw time. The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but some people get touchy about that. Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated! That's why most of them drive pickups. Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time. It's not an overly complex problem.Â* Upscale model at 12 shillings: https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? You don't?? That's it, buddy - your retrogrouch card is revoked! Actually, the shorts I'm wearing as I type this have even better. It's an additional side pocket sized for a cell phone. One of those pistols could easily fit there. Not that I ride far in these... But side pockets and or (what do they call 'em?) britches with pockets on the legs? "Cargo Pants? Aren't "watch pockets. Unless, of course you consider an alarm clock a "watch" :-) And besides the traditional method for a gentleman to carry a "pocket" pistol is in his vest pocket. Ladies, of course, can easily carry one in their muff :-) -- Cheers, John B. Oh dear how our language has changed. Gresham's Law applies to language too. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 7/4/2020 12:03 AM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 05:50:56 +0700, John B. wrote: Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more? I have two in every pair of pants -- I got tired of sewing the pocket on the wrong side, so I put one on each side. But I don't think a pistol would fit, not even a three-inch pistol. I most often stash a lipstick in my watch pocket, or a key, or a coin. This is a fine example of "I don't know what I'd do with it if I had it, but I'd sure like to have one of them." Even if I wanted to go to the trouble of learning how to operate a gun safely, and then put in the time to maintain that ability, I don't think it would be wise to discharge a firearm so small with my arthritic old hands. I also suspect that a gun that tiny would be little more than a noisemaker. I'd guess the muzzle velocity would be low, and the accuracy even lower unless you spent hours and hours becoming expert with it. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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