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Creaking Cannondale CAAD3 ?
Steve Sr. wrote:
I have a 2000 Cannondale CAAD3 touring frame with a Shimano 952 XTR tripple crank and bottom bracket. The bike has about 13,000 miles on it and this crank and BB has about 6-8,000 miles of the total. During a recent 500 mile week long tour it has developed a creaking sound that is synchronous with pedal rotation. The sound is really nasty sounding and is obviously resonating in the frame tubing which gives it the annoying "tinny" sound The sound is much more pronounced with light spinning pedal pressure when I am seated on the saddle. With no pedal pressure the sound is gone. It is also greatly reduced or eliminated by standing on the pedals. At first I thought that this was a problem with the seatpost or seat since the sound seemed to go away when standing on the pedals. I have since disassembled and greased the post, frame clamp, and saddle rails and the creaking sound is still there. My thoughts now are turning to the bottom bracket as a source of the noise. While on the tour I had the support staff tighten the BB which made no difference at all. So now I am begining to wonder if it is the BB or something else. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? A cycling buddy that works at a bike shop suggested reinstalling the BB with teflon tape to solve the problem. Does this sound like a good idea? I would appreciate some feedback before tearing everything apart. I don't have a CAAD7, but the Teflon tape fixed the same problem with my Trek aluminum ATB. It's not a difficult endeavor if you have a bottom bracket tool. Thanks, Steve |
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Steve Sr. wrote in
: I have a 2000 Cannondale CAAD3 touring frame with a Shimano 952 XTR tripple crank and bottom bracket. The bike has about 13,000 miles on it and this crank and BB has about 6-8,000 miles of the total. During a recent 500 mile week long tour it has developed a creaking sound that is synchronous with pedal rotation. The sound is really nasty sounding and is obviously resonating in the frame tubing which gives it the annoying "tinny" sound The sound is much more pronounced with light spinning pedal pressure when I am seated on the saddle. With no pedal pressure the sound is gone. It is also greatly reduced or eliminated by standing on the pedals. At first I thought that this was a problem with the seatpost or seat since the sound seemed to go away when standing on the pedals. I have since disassembled and greased the post, frame clamp, and saddle rails and the creaking sound is still there. My thoughts now are turning to the bottom bracket as a source of the noise. While on the tour I had the support staff tighten the BB which made no difference at all. So now I am begining to wonder if it is the BB or something else. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? A cycling buddy that works at a bike shop suggested reinstalling the BB with teflon tape to solve the problem. Does this sound like a good idea? I would appreciate some feedback before tearing everything apart. Thanks, Steve I'd try the teflon tape trick, but I've had 2 Cannondales and both creaked to some extent or another- never could totally eliminate it. The replaceable derailler hanger is another source of a creak (remove, grease mating surfaces, replace). So are the skewers (a thin coat of grease on the dropouts would fix this). -- Mike DeMicco |
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Steve Sr. wrote:
I have a 2000 Cannondale CAAD3 touring frame with a Shimano 952 XTR tripple crank and bottom bracket. The bike has about 13,000 miles on it and this crank and BB has about 6-8,000 miles of the total. During a recent 500 mile week long tour it has developed a creaking sound that is synchronous with pedal rotation. The sound is really nasty sounding and is obviously resonating in the frame tubing which gives it the annoying "tinny" sound The sound is much more pronounced with light spinning pedal pressure when I am seated on the saddle. With no pedal pressure the sound is gone. It is also greatly reduced or eliminated by standing on the pedals. At first I thought that this was a problem with the seatpost or seat since the sound seemed to go away when standing on the pedals. I have since disassembled and greased the post, frame clamp, and saddle rails and the creaking sound is still there. My thoughts now are turning to the bottom bracket as a source of the noise. While on the tour I had the support staff tighten the BB which made no difference at all. So now I am begining to wonder if it is the BB or something else. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? A cycling buddy that works at a bike shop suggested reinstalling the BB with teflon tape to solve the problem. Does this sound like a good idea? I would appreciate some feedback before tearing everything apart. The only cure is to take everything apart, check it for cracks, and reassemble with grease (anti-seize is good for threads). Sod's Law dictated that the similar creak on my touring bike was the BB moving against the frame shell, which is the last and most difficult thing to disassemble! |
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"Steve Sr." wrote in message ... I have a 2000 Cannondale CAAD3 touring frame with a Shimano 952 XTR tripple crank and bottom bracket. The bike has about 13,000 miles on it and this crank and BB has about 6-8,000 miles of the total. During a recent 500 mile week long tour it has developed a creaking sound that is synchronous with pedal rotation. The sound is really nasty sounding and is obviously resonating in the frame tubing which gives it the annoying "tinny" sound The sound is much more pronounced with light spinning pedal pressure when I am seated on the saddle. With no pedal pressure the sound is gone. It is also greatly reduced or eliminated by standing on the pedals. At first I thought that this was a problem with the seatpost or seat since the sound seemed to go away when standing on the pedals. I have since disassembled and greased the post, frame clamp, and saddle rails and the creaking sound is still there. My thoughts now are turning to the bottom bracket as a source of the noise. While on the tour I had the support staff tighten the BB which made no difference at all. So now I am begining to wonder if it is the BB or something else. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? A cycling buddy that works at a bike shop suggested reinstalling the BB with teflon tape to solve the problem. Does this sound like a good idea? I would appreciate some feedback before tearing everything apart. Thanks, Steve To me, it sounds like you have narrowed it down to being a problem with the interface of the crank and BB axle. If you do not tighten these cranks to spec., after a while they will begin to have this problem. Most likely they are already damaged and a good tightening will not correct the problem, but you can try. If the damage is very slight, tightening will stop the creaking. Of course, I have no way of knowing and the problem could be elsewhere, but this same thing happened to me and this is what I discovered. BTW, I don't have the torque specs on the crank bolts handy, but I can tell you that a great deal of force is needed. You should install grease on the crank bolt threads, too. Some people don't bother with this. I think the shimano website still lists the install sheet for these cranks so this would be a good place to start. I still really like these cranks from Shimano. Good luck. Dave |
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"Steve Sr." wrote in message ... I have a 2000 Cannondale CAAD3 touring frame with a Shimano 952 XTR tripple crank and bottom bracket. The bike has about 13,000 miles on it and this crank and BB has about 6-8,000 miles of the total. During a recent 500 mile week long tour it has developed a creaking sound that is synchronous with pedal rotation. The sound is really nasty sounding and is obviously resonating in the frame tubing which gives it the annoying "tinny" sound The sound is much more pronounced with light spinning pedal pressure when I am seated on the saddle. With no pedal pressure the sound is gone. It is also greatly reduced or eliminated by standing on the pedals. If it is the bottom bracket, remove it, clean it and the frame threads and re-assemble using blue locktite on the threads, also look at the bearings in your pedals and the seat where the rails enter the plastic seat housing, especially if the CODA comfort seat used on touring bikes of this time. I had this problem on a CAAd 3 road frame and tried all the tightening, greasing, & Teflon tape, nothing solved the problem until I used Locktite. |
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One source of creaks in the Cannondale is the seat post. Pull your seatpost
clean it and the tube with clean cloth and regrease with a light coat of grease. I chased a creak in my road bike for weeks before hitting upon this one. Guy |
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another source of creaking can be the cables in the cable stops...
remove all the ferrules, put in some ti "grease" and re-assemble. I had that problem on my cannondale jekyll... sure sounded like a crank/BB problem... replace the entire drive without eliminating the problem... the cable stops were the problem in my case. charlieb in ct |
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