Helmet Poll: First Hand Experience

"SMS" wrote in message
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Chris Malcolm wrote:

IOW, peer pressure caused you to question your own common sense and
sound judgment.

Exactly. That's how science works, and the reason it is so much more
successful than common sense: it's a team effort.

LOL, in order to be successful it has to be based on real science, not
junk science. There are lots of team efforts that involve using junk
science (or junk history for that matter) to prove something.

I do share the frustration of the AHZs regarding the incessant harping on
the subject of helmets from the media, health care providers, and
government. I was at my son's pediatrician's office yesterday, and she was
going over recommendations by the HMO regarding healthy lifestyles for
kids. On her computer screen it stressed not eating junk food, avoiding
high fructose corn syrup and fruit juice, limiting video games,
exercising, and of course, "always wear a helmet when riding a bicycle."

Straw Man Scharf - queen of the scientific illiterate.

"SMS" wrote in message
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Espressopithecus (Java Man) wrote:
In article ,
says...
I do share the frustration of the AHZs regarding the incessant harping
on the subject of helmets from the media, health care providers, and
government.

It may actually make helmet laws and helmet wearing in general less
safe/more dangerous because it undoubtedly contributes to risk
compensation behaviour.

There is no evidence of this alleged risk compensation behavior as it
relates to bicycle helmets.

There's plenty of evidence, it's just that it doesn't agree with Straw Man
Scharf's preconceptions, therefore it must be "junk science"

burt wrote:
"SMS" wrote in message
...
Chris Malcolm wrote:

IOW, peer pressure caused you to question your own common sense and
sound judgment.

Exactly. That's how science works, and the reason it is so much more
successful than common sense: it's a team effort.

LOL, in order to be successful it has to be based on real science, not
junk science. There are lots of team efforts that involve using junk
science (or junk history for that matter) to prove something.

I do share the frustration of the AHZs regarding the incessant harping on
the subject of helmets from the media, health care providers, and
government. I was at my son's pediatrician's office yesterday, and she was
going over recommendations by the HMO regarding healthy lifestyles for
kids. On her computer screen it stressed not eating junk food, avoiding
high fructose corn syrup and fruit juice, limiting video games,
exercising, and of course, "always wear a helmet when riding a bicycle."

Straw Man Scharf - queen of the scientific illiterate.
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"Burt" - queen. Yo, Tony! Stop hiding behind Burt's skirts! Come out
and post like a man, even if it's an _English_ man.

wrote:
... _English_ man.

In this thread at least, that is an oxymoron.

E.P.

On 9 Aug 2006 15:00:25 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Ozark, any news on whether or not you will be in NYC later this
summer?


Do you still want my picture, or have you found another object for your
homoerotic urges?

I would like to see a picture of you and I would like to know if you
would be in NYC later this year so we can meet.

JT

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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On 9 Aug 2006 15:00:25 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Ozark, any news on whether or not you will be in NYC later this
summer?


Do you still want my picture, or have you found another object for your
homoerotic urges?

I would like to see a picture of you and I would like to know if you
would be in NYC later this year so we can meet.


I have to tell you right upfront, I don't shave my legs and I go for
women, not men. Perhaps you should find another object for your
desires.

And, does your wife know about your nocturnal cravings?

On 9 Aug 2006 17:52:50 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On 9 Aug 2006 15:00:25 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Ozark, any news on whether or not you will be in NYC later this
summer?


Do you still want my picture, or have you found another object for your
homoerotic urges?

I would like to see a picture of you and I would like to know if you
would be in NYC later this year so we can meet.


I have to tell you right upfront, I don't shave my legs and I go for
women, not men. Perhaps you should find another object for your
desires.

Are you going to be in New York City anytime in the next three months?

JT

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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On 9 Aug 2006 17:52:50 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On 9 Aug 2006 15:00:25 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Ozark, any news on whether or not you will be in NYC later this
summer?


Do you still want my picture, or have you found another object for your
homoerotic urges?

I would like to see a picture of you and I would like to know if you
would be in NYC later this year so we can meet.


I have to tell you right upfront, I don't shave my legs and I go for
women, not men. Perhaps you should find another object for your
desires.

Are you going to be in New York City anytime in the next three months?



*Does* your wife know about your nocturnal cravings? If so, perhaps she
can arrange something for you. Perhaps a Bi Boy-Toy, someone you both
will enjoy. A real family clusterf**k! You can find anything in the
Big Apple! But do remember to wear a "helmet"!

On 9 Aug 2006 18:41:52 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On 9 Aug 2006 17:52:50 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On 9 Aug 2006 15:00:25 -0700, wrote:


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Ozark, any news on whether or not you will be in NYC later this
summer?


Do you still want my picture, or have you found another object for your
homoerotic urges?

I would like to see a picture of you and I would like to know if you
would be in NYC later this year so we can meet.


I have to tell you right upfront, I don't shave my legs and I go for
women, not men. Perhaps you should find another object for your
desires.

Are you going to be in New York City anytime in the next three months?



*Does* your wife know about your nocturnal cravings? If so, perhaps she
can arrange something for you. Perhaps a Bi Boy-Toy, someone you both
will enjoy. A real family clusterf**k! You can find anything in the
Big Apple! But do remember to wear a "helmet"!

Ozark,several weeks ago you challenged said Carl Fogel and other
critics of yours would not be willing to criticize you to your face. I
said I would and you rapidly responded that you would be in New York
City sometime this summer. I said fine -- let's meet.

It seems you are backing off of that challenge you placed and are
unwilling to meet me face to face, as you suggested Carl and others
would be with you.

So are you coming to New York City or not?

JT


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I'm sorry, I realize that Ozark was calling out Frank as being afraid
to meet face to face -- writing "Betcha Frank's a bit more reticent
face-to-face" -- and not Carl.

You wrote later "I really do hope to make the East Coast trip, but the
time frame is still a bit loosey-goosey Depends on the schedule of a
few friends and on nailing down an acceptable and available place in
Wellfleet, MA for a several days. I will keep you posted, as promised,
John. "

But Ozark, now, I'm getting the feeling that now you are afraid to
meet face-to-face.

So what is the situation? Are you coming to New York City?

JT

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