Old Raleigh frame project and 105 drivetrain - update and advice

Well, this is getting expensive but fun. My idea of the ideal bike for
me, which is what this project is rapidly becoming have evolved
somewhat. The 531 mixte frame is off being painted golden yellow, and I
have aquired the 105 triple, bb, front and rear mechs. I have arranged
for the frame to be cold set to 130 while its off being painted, and
have bought new (another ebay bargain) front and rear new shimano hub
mavic rims 700c wheels that will take a cassette hub so I can go
modern

I don't really like the downtube shifters on my current bike, and
really fancy bar end shifters on a nitto moustache bar as in this bike
http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/images/WilburySV.jpg, or on my
existing drops. I don't want sti's, have some nice NOS dia compe non
aero I want to use

So my questions a

My 105's are nine speed so what shifters can I use. Theres some
Dura-Ace 9 Speed Bar end shifters on ebay - I take it these will work
with presumably a 9 speed cassette..can I get 8 speed bar end shifters
and and eight speed cassette instead?

If I don't decide to do this then there are various shimano deore 9
speed shift only units - will these work?

Do I have to use a shimano chain wiith the special shimano rivet you
rip off with pliers? (how does this work when you take it off for e.g
cleaning..)

Thanks a lot....

Emma

"emma" wrote in message
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My 105's are nine speed so what shifters can I use. Theres some
Dura-Ace 9 Speed Bar end shifters on ebay - I take it these will work
with presumably a 9 speed cassette..can I get 8 speed bar end shifters
and and eight speed cassette instead?

You could - but I'd go 9 speed. It's the newer standard, so is more likely
to remain available for longer. And you get an extra cog :-)

I mentioned this about ebay before, talking about chains: Ebay isn't
necessarily cheap. For example the DA 9 speed shifters up there at the
moment are 35 quid + 3 quid postage. But they don't come with cables. Settle
do them for 40 quid, including postage and cables - the full box set. (They
do the 8 speed for 32 quid if you are feeling tight).

If I don't decide to do this then there are various shimano deore 9
speed shift only units - will these work?

For the back, yes, for the front, possibly not.

Do I have to use a shimano chain wiith the special shimano rivet you
rip off with pliers? (how does this work when you take it off for e.g
cleaning..)

No - use an SRAM chain, and make sure you get one with the powerlink.

cheers,
clive

"Clive George" wrote in message
...

No - use an SRAM chain, and make sure you get one with the powerlink.

Seconded. And I imagine most of the rest of the NG would endorse SRAM
chains.

Pete

in message .com, emma
') wrote:

My 105's are nine speed so what shifters can I use. Theres some
Dura-Ace 9 Speed Bar end shifters on ebay - I take it these will work
with presumably a 9 speed cassette..can I get 8 speed bar end shifters
and and eight speed cassette instead?

You can use any non-indexed shifters, and many bar end shifters which
are indexed have a catch that puts them in non-indexed mode. If you're
cold setting to 130 then you can use an eight or a nine speed cassette;
if you can only get nine speed bar end shifters I would strongly
recommend going for a nine speed cassette, as indexing, while it's not
vital, is nice-to-have for the rear deraileur. Personally I would leave
indexing off for the front deraileur.

Do I have to use a shimano chain wiith the special shimano rivet you
rip off with pliers? (how does this work when you take it off for e.g
cleaning..)

No, don't use Shimano chain. SRAM chains are just better all round. Make
sure you get one with the (optional) magic joining link, it makes
taking the chain off _so_ much easier.

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
"This young man has not the faintest idea how socialists think and does
not begin to understand the mentality of the party he has been elected
to lead. He is quite simply a liberal"
-- Ken Coates MEP (Lab) of Tony Blair

yep, you're right about settle cycles - thanks for that, and I greatly
appreciate the help

Emma