Cyclists can afford cars after all

On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 8:40:29 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
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On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 8:16:57 PM UTC+1,
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT),
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I also see and encounter cyclists riding across Zebra crossings.

Not illegal


A Zebra crossing is a pedestrian crossing, if you are cycling across
it you are not a pedestrian. Vehicle users including other cyclists
if they are traveling along carriageway are not obliged to give you
the priority that is granted by law to pedestrians.
Amazing how many cyclists who pull this stunt get all aggrieved and
aggressive when I apply the horn rather than the brakes as they think
that they have the right to expect the traffic to stop like it should
for pedestrians.

G.Harman

What law is the cyclist breaking?
Why do you think you can assault another road user because you,
incorrectly, believe they are breaking the law?

Prick.

North end of a Southbound horse.

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On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 8:40:29 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
wrote:
On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 8:16:57 PM UTC+1,
wrote:
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


I also see and encounter cyclists riding across Zebra crossings.

Not illegal


A Zebra crossing is a pedestrian crossing, if you are cycling
across it you are not a pedestrian. Vehicle users including other
cyclists if they are traveling along carriageway are not obliged
to give you the priority that is granted by law to pedestrians.
Amazing how many cyclists who pull this stunt get all aggrieved and
aggressive when I apply the horn rather than the brakes as they
think that they have the right to expect the traffic to stop like
it should for pedestrians.

G.Harman

What law is the cyclist breaking?
Why do you think you can assault another road user because you,
incorrectly, believe they are breaking the law?

Prick.

North end of a Southbound horse.

Prick.

On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 12:35:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



A Zebra crossing is a pedestrian crossing, if you are cycling across
it you are not a pedestrian. Vehicle users including other cyclists if
they are traveling along carriageway are not obliged to give you the
priority that is granted by law to pedestrians.
Amazing how many cyclists who pull this stunt get all aggrieved and
aggressive when I apply the horn rather than the brakes as they think
that they have the right to expect the traffic to stop like it should
for pedestrians.

G.Harman

What law is the cyclist breaking?
When they shoot out in front of other road users then Dangerous or
Careless cycling would be good offences to start with

Why do you think you can assault another road user because you, incorrectly, believe they are breaking the law?


Blowing a horn isn't an assault , it's just to let them know I'm
there, only on one occasion has it ended with a collision.
Ended up with the arrogant twits wheel being bent . That's what a
heavy 15 stone bloke on a 70 year old Hercules Roadster traveling at
a fair lick can do to a an arrogant lycra clad idiot with a delicate
bike built for performance but not durability. Claimed he didn't see
me coming , course he didn't cause he didn't bother to look hard
enough and assumed that cycling across the crossing meant that others
moving along the road had to defer to him as they would have to for
pedestrians.

I'm not prejudiced you see , I apply the same rules whether I'm on a
push bike or in a car.

G.Harman

On 08.04.2017 07:40, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 8:16:57 PM UTC+1,
wrote:
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


I also see and encounter cyclists riding across Zebra crossings.

Not illegal


A Zebra crossing is a pedestrian crossing, if you are cycling across
it you are not a pedestrian. Vehicle users including other cyclists
if they are traveling along carriageway are not obliged to give you
the priority that is granted by law to pedestrians.
Amazing how many cyclists who pull this stunt get all aggrieved and
aggressive when I apply the horn rather than the brakes as they think
that they have the right to expect the traffic to stop like it should
for pedestrians.

G.Harman

What law is the cyclist breaking?
Why do you think you can assault another road user because you,
incorrectly, believe they are breaking the law?

Prick.


It really is a very great compliment to be called a prick by YOU.
Especially by YOU.
And I have no ****ing interest in looking good in YOUR eyes.
After all I ride a ****ing bicycle.
And we all know what YOU think of bicyclists. You think they are the
****witted pits of humanity.
And because it is YOU who think that, that is an extremely great
compliment.
We must be doing something right.

On 08.04.2017 08:30, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 8:40:29 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
wrote:
On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 8:16:57 PM UTC+1,
wrote:
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


I also see and encounter cyclists riding across Zebra crossings.

Not illegal


A Zebra crossing is a pedestrian crossing, if you are cycling
across it you are not a pedestrian. Vehicle users including other
cyclists if they are traveling along carriageway are not obliged
to give you the priority that is granted by law to pedestrians.
Amazing how many cyclists who pull this stunt get all aggrieved and
aggressive when I apply the horn rather than the brakes as they
think that they have the right to expect the traffic to stop like
it should for pedestrians.

G.Harman

What law is the cyclist breaking?
Why do you think you can assault another road user because you,
incorrectly, believe they are breaking the law?

Prick.

North end of a Southbound horse.

Prick.


Your horse?

On 08.04.2017 07:41, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
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On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 9:37:38 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
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On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 7:49:39 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:
On 04/04/2017 21:58, TMS320 wrote:
Well, it can't be motorists because we have often been told that
they never do this.

http://www.roadhawk.co.uk/blog/impat...-on-pavements/



I see and directly encounter cyclists riding on pavements every
day,

So do I, does that exempt motorists from the law?

very few of them even slow down while negotiating/passing
pedestrians.

Yet you are still 200 times more likely to be killed by a car on the
pavement than a bicycle\

I also see and encounter cyclists riding across Zebra crossings.

Not illegal


I have never seen or been passed by, a car coming toward me or from
behind me while I am walking on the pavement,

I have.

nor have I seen a car
driving along a pavement

I have

, or using a Zebra crossing

I have

. I have never had
to leap out of the way of a pavement driven car either

I have

unlike the
dangerously ridden pavement bicycles that I frequently see and have
encountered)

Certainly cars do sometimes mount pavements and park there

and that's OK?


, sometimes
they use a bit of pavement to avoid a temporary obstruction

And that's OK?

, but they do
not make their entire or significant parts of their journeys on
pavements

What percentage of your journey are allowed to make on the pavement?

, not even the cars being driven by cyclists, although I do
suspect that the worst driven cars probably have a cyclist at the
wheel.

Because that is the only way you can justify your childish
prejudice?

Prick.

Reasoned argument, logically presented.

Prick.


It really is a very great compliment to be called a prick by YOU.
Especially by YOU.
And I have no ****ing interest in looking good in YOUR eyes.
After all I ride a ****ing bicycle.
And we all know what YOU think of bicyclists. You think they are the
****witted pits of humanity.
And because it is YOU who think that, that is an extremely great
compliment.
We must be doing something right.

On 08.04.2017 07:41, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Peter Keller wrote:
On 06.04.2017 08:37, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Prick.


Thanks greatly for your excellent compliment.

?It really is a very great compliment to be called a prick by YOU.
Especially by YOU.
And I have no ****ing interest in looking good in YOUR eyes.
After all I ride a ****ing bicycle.
And we all know what YOU think of bicyclists. You think they are the
****witted pits of humanity.
And because it is YOU who think that, that is an extremely great
compliment.
We must be doing something right.

Prick.


Prick? Is that all YOU can cum up with?
What not bestowing on me from YOU the further honour of craven dewberry
****head cockup pratting naff?

It really is a very great compliment to be called a prick by YOU.
Especially by YOU.
And I have no ****ing interest in looking good in YOUR eyes.
After all I ride a ****ing bicycle.
And we all know what YOU think of bicyclists. You think they are the
****witted pits of humanity.
And because it is YOU who think that, that is an extremely great
compliment.
We must be doing something right.

On 07/04/2017 20:16, wrote:

wrote:

I also see and encounter cyclists riding across Zebra crossings.

Not illegal

A Zebra crossing is a pedestrian crossing, if you are cycling across
it you are not a pedestrian. Vehicle users including other cyclists if
they are traveling along carriageway are not obliged to give you the
priority that is granted by law to pedestrians.
Amazing how many cyclists who pull this stunt get all aggrieved and
aggressive when I apply the horn rather than the brakes as they think
that they have the right to expect the traffic to stop like it should
for pedestrians.

G.Harman

+1.

I suspect that the PP meant that it isn't illegal for cyclists to ride
across zebra crossings in the same way as drivers pass across them,
along the carriageway. He cannot have meant across the road from kerb to
kerb because that would imply using a pedestrian-only area at either end
of the crossing.

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On 07/04/2017 20:35, wrote:
On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 8:16:57 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


I also see and encounter cyclists riding across Zebra crossings.

Not illegal


A Zebra crossing is a pedestrian crossing, if you are cycling across
it you are not a pedestrian. Vehicle users including other cyclists if
they are traveling along carriageway are not obliged to give you the
priority that is granted by law to pedestrians.
Amazing how many cyclists who pull this stunt get all aggrieved and
aggressive when I apply the horn rather than the brakes as they think
that they have the right to expect the traffic to stop like it should
for pedestrians.

G.Harman

What law is the cyclist breaking?

Cycling on the footway for a start.

Why do you think you can assault another road user because you, incorrectly, believe they are breaking the law?

Declining to accord precedence to a cyclist abusing a pedestrian
crossing is not assault.


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On Saturday, April 8, 2017 at 12:21:36 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 07/04/2017 20:16, wrote:

wrote:

I also see and encounter cyclists riding across Zebra crossings.

Not illegal

A Zebra crossing is a pedestrian crossing, if you are cycling across
it you are not a pedestrian. Vehicle users including other cyclists if
they are traveling along carriageway are not obliged to give you the
priority that is granted by law to pedestrians.
Amazing how many cyclists who pull this stunt get all aggrieved and
aggressive when I apply the horn rather than the brakes as they think
that they have the right to expect the traffic to stop like it should
for pedestrians.

G.Harman

+1.

I suspect that the PP meant that it isn't illegal for cyclists to ride
across zebra crossings in the same way as drivers pass across them,
along the carriageway. He cannot have meant across the road from kerb to
kerb because that would imply using a pedestrian-only area at either end
of the crossing.


Thank you for your support, that is what I meant.

I assume you also agree that saying 'I use the horn rather than the brakes' is a threat of unlawful violence and therefore assault.

Hint: You cannot run someone over just because you believe they are breaking the law.