trikes?

Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:37:41 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery"
wrote:

Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry


I had a Sun Tadpole for quite a while. The Tadpole type DOES take
some getting used to. Steers completely different than anything you
are used to. But, after you have been on it for a while....IT'S A
FRIGGIN' BLAST!!!!

The sun is probably the heaviest trike out there. Greenspeed makes
some fantastic rides as well.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...riplephoto.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...-04-09-003.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...2262007-07.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...2262007-02.jpg

On Apr 19, 5:37*am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry

I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R
wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for
shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have
in mind.

IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being
well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast:
http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html

Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty
than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be
practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road.
http://www.pedalcoupe.com/

Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads:

I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent
tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a
big way of business, so you can find them on the net

This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in
automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set
of A-frames follows naturally:
http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm

And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such
a low device:
http://www.tripod-bikes.com/
The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich,
which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a
Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like
mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to
the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of
change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway.

As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:37*am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry

I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R
wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for
shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have
in mind.

IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being
well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast:
http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html

Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty
than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be
practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road.
http://www.pedalcoupe.com/

Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads:

I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent
tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a
big way of business, so you can find them on the net

This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in
automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set
of A-frames follows naturally:
http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm

And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such
a low device:
http://www.tripod-bikes.com/
The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich,
which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a
Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like
mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to
the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of
change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway.

As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf


Why didn't you mention that there are numerous manufacturers out there
that are inherently cheaper than the models you describe here. For
someone that is just starting out 3 grand is quite an investment.

Harry Brogan wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:37 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry
I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R
wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for
shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have
in mind.

IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being
well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast:
http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html

Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty
than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be
practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road.
http://www.pedalcoupe.com/

Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads:

I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent
tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a
big way of business, so you can find them on the net

This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in
automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set
of A-frames follows naturally:
http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm

And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such
a low device:
http://www.tripod-bikes.com/
The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich,
which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a
Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like
mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to
the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of
change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway.

As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf


Why didn't you mention that there are numerous manufacturers out there
that are inherently cheaper than the models you describe here. For
someone that is just starting out 3 grand is quite an investment.

Perhaps Mr Sherman can comment:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...icycle&x=0&y=0

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 4/20/2011 4:28 PM, A. Muzi wrote:
Harry Brogan wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:37 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are
recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas
are. Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry
I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R
wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for
shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have
in mind.

IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being
well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast:
http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html

Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty
than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be
practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road.
http://www.pedalcoupe.com/

Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads:

I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent
tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a
big way of business, so you can find them on the net

This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in
automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set
of A-frames follows naturally:
http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm

And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such
a low device:
http://www.tripod-bikes.com/
The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich,
which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a
Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like
mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to
the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of
change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway.

As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf


Why didn't you mention that there are numerous manufacturers out there
that are inherently cheaper than the models you describe here. For
someone that is just starting out 3 grand is quite an investment.

Perhaps Mr Sherman can comment:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...icycle&x=0&y=0

The TerraTrike Rover and Path models would be considered "entry level
bike shop quality" - roughly equivalent to your $250-350 upright comfort
bike. However, I would avoid the 1 and 3-speed versions unless you live
in a pancake flat area, and spend the extra money for the 8-speed hub.
The more expensive TerraTrike models will offer wider range gearing,
less weight, better components, and/or a more aggressive (more reclined
and lower) riding position. http://www.terratrike.com/index.php

I would not consider the lower prices trike for anything beyond going
around the neighborhood or a few miles down a bike path and back.

Here are some more relatively affordable trikes that are good values:
http://www.easyracers.com/ezseries.html.

Of course you can spend $4975 plus shipping from Old Blighty for this:
http://www.windcheetah.co.uk/hypersport.htm. drool

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

"AMuzi" wrote in message
...
Harry Brogan wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:37 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are
recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are.
Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry
I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R
wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for
shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have
in mind.

IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being
well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast:
http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html

Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty
than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be
practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road.
http://www.pedalcoupe.com/

Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads:

I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent
tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a
big way of business, so you can find them on the net

This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in
automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set
of A-frames follows naturally:
http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm

And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such
a low device:
http://www.tripod-bikes.com/
The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich,
which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a
Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like
mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to
the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of
change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway.

As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf


Why didn't you mention that there are numerous manufacturers out there
that are inherently cheaper than the models you describe here. For
someone that is just starting out 3 grand is quite an investment.

Perhaps Mr Sherman can comment:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...icycle&x=0&y=0

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andrew,
Was pleased to see that my LBS sells the first one on Amazon's page (the
TerraTrike Cruiser) for $48 less than Amazon does!
Kerry

Kerry Montgomery wrote:
"AMuzi" wrote in message
...
Harry Brogan wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:37 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are
recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are.
Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry
I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R
wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for
shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have
in mind.

IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being
well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast:
http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html

Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty
than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be
practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road.
http://www.pedalcoupe.com/

Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads:

I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent
tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a
big way of business, so you can find them on the net

This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in
automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set
of A-frames follows naturally:
http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm

And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such
a low device:
http://www.tripod-bikes.com/
The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich,
which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a
Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like
mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to
the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of
change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway.

As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf

Why didn't you mention that there are numerous manufacturers out there
that are inherently cheaper than the models you describe here. For
someone that is just starting out 3 grand is quite an investment.
Perhaps Mr Sherman can comment:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...icycle&x=0&y=0

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andrew,
Was pleased to see that my LBS sells the first one on Amazon's page (the
TerraTrike Cruiser) for $48 less than Amazon does!
Kerry



Welcome to the hidden cost of 'free shipping'.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Apr 20, 9:52*pm, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute





wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:37 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are.. Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry

I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R
wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for
shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have
in mind.

IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being
well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast:
http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html

Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty
than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be
practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road.
http://www.pedalcoupe.com/

Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads:

I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent
tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a
big way of business, so you can find them on the net

This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in
automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set
of A-frames follows naturally:
http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm

And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such
a low device:
http://www.tripod-bikes.com/
The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich,
which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a
Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like
mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to
the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of
change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway.

As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf

Why didn't you mention that there are numerous manufacturers out there
that are inherently cheaper than the models you describe here. *For
someone that is just starting out 3 grand is quite an investment.

Sorry, Harry, but I was under the impression a proper bike was
required by a serious cyclist. Those 1500 dollar bikes won't be much
chop off a smooth blacktop, nor last very long even on it.

Also, most of the trikes I recommended, the prices was for a) very
full equipment, in the European style, in itself worth a grand, and b)
with a Rohloff gearbox for the very low gears Kerry needs, which is
another grand and a half or two grand by the time the correct Magura
Louisa discs are fitted to work with the SON and the Rohloff hubs.

Furthermore, the specification of a highish seat really limits the
choice. I came up though with one trike for two grand, and offered in
America, but unfortunately sold out. (Also, I looked at it for myself,
and struck it from my own list as too clever by half, with a three
speed hub gearbox stuck out the front, and fidgety, exposed gubbins
everywhere.)

Finally. I usually go for the best and make it last. In the long run
it is cheaper than buying crap that never works right and only lasts a
year before you have to replace it.

If you have a better list than mine, you should publish it. I noticed
Tom Sherman's list was entirely unsuitable -- so was half of my list.
There just isn't much that is suitable for Kerry's specific
requirements at any price, so you get a little desperate searching.

"Harry Brogan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:37 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Hi all,
Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are
recumbents,
but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are.
Or,
for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded.
Thanks,
Kerry

I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R
wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for
shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have
in mind.

IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being
well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast:
http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html

Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty
than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be
practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road.
http://www.pedalcoupe.com/

Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads:

I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent
tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a
big way of business, so you can find them on the net

This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in
automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set
of A-frames follows naturally:
http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm

And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such
a low device:
http://www.tripod-bikes.com/
The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich,
which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a
Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like
mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to
the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of
change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway.

As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf


Why didn't you mention that there are numerous manufacturers out there
that are inherently cheaper than the models you describe here. For
someone that is just starting out 3 grand is quite an investment.

Harry,
I'm happy to look at any trikes that have been suggested here. 3 grand is
more than I would like to pay, but may end up spending that much if it's
what it takes to get a suitable trike. Am just starting out on trikes, but
have ridden bike for 50 years or so.
Thanks,
Kerry