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On Apr 21, 4:30*am, Harry Brogan
wrote: On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:52:30 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote: "Harry Brogan" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute wrote: On Apr 19, 5:37 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote: Hi all, Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents, but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Or, for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded. Thanks, Kerry I went into this trikes thoroughly a few years ago. I dismissed 1F2R wheel designs at the outset as basically unstable, good only for shopping at very moderate pace, which I don't think is what you have in mind. IIRC correctly, I settled on the Anthrotech as the best buy, being well-made, easy to get into and out of, safe and reasonable fast: http://anthrotech.de/Pages-e/index-e.html Stateside there was this, which may or may not be more of a novelty than a bike, but which I eventually dismissed as too low to be practical either for sitting/rising or visibility on the road. http://www.pedalcoupe.com/ Among the low speedsters, not useful on my roads: I looked at a well-reputed, well-priced folding, very low recumbent tricycle from HP Velotech, but can't find the file now; they're in a big way of business, so you can find them on the net This one I liked for its technical interest -- my own specialty in automobiles is suspension, so my fascination with such a beautiful set of A-frames follows naturally: http://www.tripendo.com/EDEFAULT.htm And this is what I would have bought if I were in the market for such a low device: http://www.tripod-bikes.com/ The Tripod is in about the same price group as my Utopia Kranich, which for a tricycle with many more components, competently made by a Dutch firm, is not outrageous. Note though that essentials like mudguards and lights are extra. Probably, fully fitted up right out to the panniers, ready to tour, a Rohloff version mght leave a bit of change out of six grand American, standing on your driveway. As an only or everyday bike, the Anthrotech seemed the most practical. Andre Jute http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/Andre%20Jute's%20Utopia%20Kranich.pdf Why didn't you mention that there are numerous manufacturers out there that are inherently cheaper than the models you describe here. *For someone that is just starting out 3 grand is quite an investment. Harry, I'm happy to look at any trikes that have been suggested here. 3 grand is more than I would like to pay, but may end up spending that much if it's what it takes to get a suitable trike. Am just starting out on trikes, but have ridden bike for 50 years or so. Thanks, Kerry I owned a Sun Tadpole for quite a while before I had to move. *Anyway, although it did NOT have some of the things on it at the start that I would have liked it was WELL withing my price range. *I paid less than 1000 for it and then upgraded as I went along. I changed the wheels and built my own custom alloy ones. *Then I changed the tires to a set of reflective Street Skinz. *Since it already had Disc brakes I only did an upgrade to Avid Juicy 7 hydraulics. *Fenders were added by doing a bit of customizing from an old set of 20 inch ones from Planet Bike. *Also, there was a rear rack for hauling things. *I even had a BoB trailer that I used for trips to the grocery store. True this trike is a lot heavier than a lot of them on the market. But it is a GREAT starter for someone that is just jumping into the trike world. *It's built like a tank and holds up extremely well under harsh riding conditions. *I was out in six inches of snow and some extreme cold and it rode just fine. *Rarely did I ever scrape the bottom due to jumping a curb. *Also, it was one of the TOP bikes for me as far as the "Fun Factor". Here are a few photos for you...... http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...om%20Stuff/tri... http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...om%20Stuff/Tri... http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...om%20Stuff/Tri... http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...om%20Stuff/AVI... http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...om%20Stuff/AVI... http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...om%20Stuff/AVI... http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...0Stuff/Hea...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - spiff ! |
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On 21/04/2011 05:55, Kerry Montgomery wrote:
"Tºm ShermªnT " wrote in message ... On 4/19/2011 11:45 PM, Kerry Montgomery wrote: "T?m Sherm?nT " wrote in message ... On 4/18/2011 11:37 PM, Kerry Montgomery wrote: Hi all, Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents, but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Tadpoles are better for long rides and fast cornering. Deltas are better for shorter trips around town. (As a general rule) Velomobiles are heavy and expensive, but very fast under the right conditions and offer good to excellent weather protection. Or, for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded. ICE (Inspired Cycle Engineering), Greenspeed, Trisled, AVD (Windcheetah), Big Cat HPV (Catrike), HP Velotechnik, Optima, Wizwheelz, Organic Engines come to mind off the top of my head as brands I would feel confident in buying. Sun also makes trikes at a lower price range, and as a division of J&B, they can be ordered by any LBS that has a J&B account. Tell us where you are at (general vicinity) and we may be able to suggest a dealer near you. Also your price range and expected use would be helpful. Unfortunately, due to greater complexity and economies of scale, a $2,000 trike will have a frame quality and component level of a $800 road bike. -- T?m Sherm?n - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Hi all, Thanks for the many thoughts. As T?m surmised, I am recumbent ignorant, but know that I don't want a Worksman, or equivalent, trike. I don't think my cornering skill level ever was good enough for an upright racing trike - have seen videos of them going around turns at high rates of speed with the rider WAY over on the inside. If you can drive a go-cart, you can ride a tadpole trike at speed. A tadpole may be the right kind of thing for me - did a little shopping at Coventry Cycles today (very nice folks here in Portland, OR). One of my problems is with changing from a sitting to a standing position, so a relatively high seat may be valuable. The AnthroTech that Andre mentioned might be good in that regard, haven't yet done much research into availability, weight, cost, etc. Yes, low tadpoles are not the easiest to sit down on and get up from. Have not been there, but Coventry has a good reputation. Desired price range would be about $2,000, but may have to re-evaluate that upward based on what I've seen so far. Yes, all to easy to spend $4, $5 or $6K. In an ideal world, it would fit in the back of a Subaru Impreza wagon that has the back seats folded down. Otherwise, am looking for some sort of rack (other than a roof rack). The Greenspeed folding trikes should fit. Otherwise, something like a Draftsmaster should work:http://www.atoc.com/draftmastertrike.php. Use will mostly be exercise on bike trails and paths. It'd be good if it had low enough gears to get me up at least railroad grades on rails-to-trails, You *should* have lower gears on a trike that you have used on an upright. If your lowest gear on an upright was 30 gear-inches, I would consider a low gear of 15-18 gear inches on a trike, or even lower if you will be doing loaded touring. Since balance is not an issue, you will never need to get off and walk as long as your gears are low enough. Sacrifice top end gears, if you do not want to go to the expense of a Rohloff hub or Schlumpf BB. You may also want to consider cranks that are 20 to 30-mm shorter than what you have used on an upright. Short cranks and low gears will help you get up hills, until your muscles accommodate to the different riding position. and some sort of tire compromise that would let me try some gravel road in the woods stuff. I have Maxxis Hookworms on my trike, which work well both on pavement and moderate gravel and non-muddy trails. A robust tire on the rear is good, since you will find that you will straddle potholes with the front wheels, and then hit them with the back. If you can afford it, rear suspension makes for a very nice and relaxing ride. Combine it with heavy duty tires (e.g. Hookworms or other BMX tires), and you can pay much less attention to the road than you would on a bicycle, and much more to what is around you (the riding position also helps here). If I were ever to do any touring, a trike would be my first choice for the above (and other) reasons. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Tom, I can drive a go-kart, even one in Germany, where they have fewer lawyers and, it seemed, faster karts on faster tracks. But, the direct-steer CatTrike that I rode seemed very twitchy to me. May be just inexperience, though. Good suggestions on the tires and gear ratios - will be happier with a derailleur system that I can work on rather than an internally geared hub. Thanks again, Kerry You could also try ICE Trikes they fold down quite small with the option of front and rear suspension. Feels great at speed, my 08 Q that is. Best to try before you buy. See http://www.icetrikes.co/ -- Chris |
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"Chris" wrote in message ... On 21/04/2011 05:55, Kerry Montgomery wrote: "Tºm ShermªnT " wrote in message ... On 4/19/2011 11:45 PM, Kerry Montgomery wrote: "T?m Sherm?nT " wrote in message ... On 4/18/2011 11:37 PM, Kerry Montgomery wrote: Hi all, Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents, but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Tadpoles are better for long rides and fast cornering. Deltas are better for shorter trips around town. (As a general rule) Velomobiles are heavy and expensive, but very fast under the right conditions and offer good to excellent weather protection. Or, for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded. ICE (Inspired Cycle Engineering), Greenspeed, Trisled, AVD (Windcheetah), Big Cat HPV (Catrike), HP Velotechnik, Optima, Wizwheelz, Organic Engines come to mind off the top of my head as brands I would feel confident in buying. Sun also makes trikes at a lower price range, and as a division of J&B, they can be ordered by any LBS that has a J&B account. Tell us where you are at (general vicinity) and we may be able to suggest a dealer near you. Also your price range and expected use would be helpful. Unfortunately, due to greater complexity and economies of scale, a $2,000 trike will have a frame quality and component level of a $800 road bike. -- T?m Sherm?n - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Hi all, Thanks for the many thoughts. As T?m surmised, I am recumbent ignorant, but know that I don't want a Worksman, or equivalent, trike. I don't think my cornering skill level ever was good enough for an upright racing trike - have seen videos of them going around turns at high rates of speed with the rider WAY over on the inside. If you can drive a go-cart, you can ride a tadpole trike at speed. A tadpole may be the right kind of thing for me - did a little shopping at Coventry Cycles today (very nice folks here in Portland, OR). One of my problems is with changing from a sitting to a standing position, so a relatively high seat may be valuable. The AnthroTech that Andre mentioned might be good in that regard, haven't yet done much research into availability, weight, cost, etc. Yes, low tadpoles are not the easiest to sit down on and get up from. Have not been there, but Coventry has a good reputation. Desired price range would be about $2,000, but may have to re-evaluate that upward based on what I've seen so far. Yes, all to easy to spend $4, $5 or $6K. In an ideal world, it would fit in the back of a Subaru Impreza wagon that has the back seats folded down. Otherwise, am looking for some sort of rack (other than a roof rack). The Greenspeed folding trikes should fit. Otherwise, something like a Draftsmaster should work:http://www.atoc.com/draftmastertrike.php. Use will mostly be exercise on bike trails and paths. It'd be good if it had low enough gears to get me up at least railroad grades on rails-to-trails, You *should* have lower gears on a trike that you have used on an upright. If your lowest gear on an upright was 30 gear-inches, I would consider a low gear of 15-18 gear inches on a trike, or even lower if you will be doing loaded touring. Since balance is not an issue, you will never need to get off and walk as long as your gears are low enough. Sacrifice top end gears, if you do not want to go to the expense of a Rohloff hub or Schlumpf BB. You may also want to consider cranks that are 20 to 30-mm shorter than what you have used on an upright. Short cranks and low gears will help you get up hills, until your muscles accommodate to the different riding position. and some sort of tire compromise that would let me try some gravel road in the woods stuff. I have Maxxis Hookworms on my trike, which work well both on pavement and moderate gravel and non-muddy trails. A robust tire on the rear is good, since you will find that you will straddle potholes with the front wheels, and then hit them with the back. If you can afford it, rear suspension makes for a very nice and relaxing ride. Combine it with heavy duty tires (e.g. Hookworms or other BMX tires), and you can pay much less attention to the road than you would on a bicycle, and much more to what is around you (the riding position also helps here). If I were ever to do any touring, a trike would be my first choice for the above (and other) reasons. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Tom, I can drive a go-kart, even one in Germany, where they have fewer lawyers and, it seemed, faster karts on faster tracks. But, the direct-steer CatTrike that I rode seemed very twitchy to me. May be just inexperience, though. Good suggestions on the tires and gear ratios - will be happier with a derailleur system that I can work on rather than an internally geared hub. Thanks again, Kerry You could also try ICE Trikes they fold down quite small with the option of front and rear suspension. Feels great at speed, my 08 Q that is. Best to try before you buy. See http://www.icetrikes.co/ -- Chris Chris, Thanks for the suggestion. Haven't seen an ICE yet, but now have one of their brochures. Do you know which of the current models (Adventure, Sprint, Vortex) your Q is similar to? Coventry Cycles has/will have an Adventure RS in stock, but that model comes only with Sturmey Archer drum brakes, which seem less desirable than discs. Does yours have drum brakes, and, if so, how do you like them? At present am leaning toward a HP Velotechnik Scorpion fx, or, if I can fit it in the Impreza wagon, the plain Scorpion. They're available with derailleur gears, disc brakes, and any one of three seat heights. 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On 26/04/2011 04:58, Kerry Montgomery wrote:
wrote in message ... On 21/04/2011 05:55, Kerry Montgomery wrote: "Tºm ShermªnT " wrote in message ... On 4/19/2011 11:45 PM, Kerry Montgomery wrote: "T?m Sherm?nT " wrote in message ... On 4/18/2011 11:37 PM, Kerry Montgomery wrote: Hi all, Am in the market for a trike, for balance reasons. All I see are recumbents, but don't know what the (dis)advantages are of tadpoles and deltas are. Tadpoles are better for long rides and fast cornering. Deltas are better for shorter trips around town. (As a general rule) Velomobiles are heavy and expensive, but very fast under the right conditions and offer good to excellent weather protection. Or, for that matter, if there are brands that are well regarded. ICE (Inspired Cycle Engineering), Greenspeed, Trisled, AVD (Windcheetah), Big Cat HPV (Catrike), HP Velotechnik, Optima, Wizwheelz, Organic Engines come to mind off the top of my head as brands I would feel confident in buying. Sun also makes trikes at a lower price range, and as a division of J&B, they can be ordered by any LBS that has a J&B account. Tell us where you are at (general vicinity) and we may be able to suggest a dealer near you. Also your price range and expected use would be helpful. Unfortunately, due to greater complexity and economies of scale, a $2,000 trike will have a frame quality and component level of a $800 road bike. -- T?m Sherm?n - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Hi all, Thanks for the many thoughts. As T?m surmised, I am recumbent ignorant, but know that I don't want a Worksman, or equivalent, trike. I don't think my cornering skill level ever was good enough for an upright racing trike - have seen videos of them going around turns at high rates of speed with the rider WAY over on the inside. If you can drive a go-cart, you can ride a tadpole trike at speed. A tadpole may be the right kind of thing for me - did a little shopping at Coventry Cycles today (very nice folks here in Portland, OR). One of my problems is with changing from a sitting to a standing position, so a relatively high seat may be valuable. The AnthroTech that Andre mentioned might be good in that regard, haven't yet done much research into availability, weight, cost, etc. Yes, low tadpoles are not the easiest to sit down on and get up from. Have not been there, but Coventry has a good reputation. Desired price range would be about $2,000, but may have to re-evaluate that upward based on what I've seen so far. Yes, all to easy to spend $4, $5 or $6K. In an ideal world, it would fit in the back of a Subaru Impreza wagon that has the back seats folded down. Otherwise, am looking for some sort of rack (other than a roof rack). The Greenspeed folding trikes should fit. Otherwise, something like a Draftsmaster should work:http://www.atoc.com/draftmastertrike.php. Use will mostly be exercise on bike trails and paths. It'd be good if it had low enough gears to get me up at least railroad grades on rails-to-trails, You *should* have lower gears on a trike that you have used on an upright. If your lowest gear on an upright was 30 gear-inches, I would consider a low gear of 15-18 gear inches on a trike, or even lower if you will be doing loaded touring. Since balance is not an issue, you will never need to get off and walk as long as your gears are low enough. Sacrifice top end gears, if you do not want to go to the expense of a Rohloff hub or Schlumpf BB. You may also want to consider cranks that are 20 to 30-mm shorter than what you have used on an upright. Short cranks and low gears will help you get up hills, until your muscles accommodate to the different riding position. and some sort of tire compromise that would let me try some gravel road in the woods stuff. I have Maxxis Hookworms on my trike, which work well both on pavement and moderate gravel and non-muddy trails. A robust tire on the rear is good, since you will find that you will straddle potholes with the front wheels, and then hit them with the back. If you can afford it, rear suspension makes for a very nice and relaxing ride. Combine it with heavy duty tires (e.g. Hookworms or other BMX tires), and you can pay much less attention to the road than you would on a bicycle, and much more to what is around you (the riding position also helps here). If I were ever to do any touring, a trike would be my first choice for the above (and other) reasons. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Tom, I can drive a go-kart, even one in Germany, where they have fewer lawyers and, it seemed, faster karts on faster tracks. But, the direct-steer CatTrike that I rode seemed very twitchy to me. May be just inexperience, though. Good suggestions on the tires and gear ratios - will be happier with a derailleur system that I can work on rather than an internally geared hub. Thanks again, Kerry You could also try ICE Trikes they fold down quite small with the option of front and rear suspension. Feels great at speed, my 08 Q that is. Best to try before you buy. See http://www.icetrikes.co/ -- Chris Chris, Thanks for the suggestion. Haven't seen an ICE yet, but now have one of their brochures. Do you know which of the current models (Adventure, Sprint, Vortex) your Q is similar to? Coventry Cycles has/will have an Adventure RS in stock, but that model comes only with Sturmey Archer drum brakes, which seem less desirable than discs. Does yours have drum brakes, and, if so, how do you like them? At present am leaning toward a HP Velotechnik Scorpion fx, or, if I can fit it in the Impreza wagon, the plain Scorpion. They're available with derailleur gears, disc brakes, and any one of three seat heights. Thanks much, Kerry I would say the Q is equivalent to the Sprint, the difference being the clearance under the trike and the more upright seating in the Adventure. Drum brakes are very powerful and virtually no maintenance and last virtually for ever, one member of triceriders Yahoo group managed to ware them out after 26,000 miles. Disks might be better if you plan on doing a lot of long steep down hills, its available as an option according to their web site. There is no brake steer if you brake on one side only for some reason. Their web site is very good although I would take 30s for taking out of a small car unfolding and setting off with a pinch of salt. Customer service is excellent. -- Chris |
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On Apr 26, 4:58*am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
At present am leaning toward a HP Velotechnik Scorpion fx, or, if I can fit it in the Impreza wagon, the plain Scorpion. They're available with derailleur gears, disc brakes, and any one of three seat heights. Thanks much, Kerry Though they're similarly named, the Scorpion and the Scorpion fx are not the same trike at all. On the Scorpion you sit very low, your feet above seat level. On the fx you sit maybe four inches higher, with your feet below the seat level. The seating arrangement of the fx is nearer to the Anthrotech that was my own first choice, and my first recommendation to you. The fx isn't so far down as the Scorpion when you want to sit down. On the whole, I noted at the time, if I had to take an HP, it would be the fx, even though I don't need a folder, simply because it is a bit more dignified for men of certain maturity... Andre Jute Visit Andre's recipes: http://coolmainpress.com/andrejutefoodindex.html |
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Andre Jute wrote:
On Apr 26, 4:58 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote: At present am leaning toward a HP Velotechnik Scorpion fx, or, if I can fit it in the Impreza wagon, the plain Scorpion. They're available with derailleur gears, disc brakes, and any one of three seat heights. Thanks much, Kerry Though they're similarly named, the Scorpion and the Scorpion fx are not the same trike at all. On the Scorpion you sit very low, your feet above seat level. On the fx you sit maybe four inches higher, with your feet below the seat level. The seating arrangement of the fx is nearer to the Anthrotech that was my own first choice, and my first recommendation to you. The fx isn't so far down as the Scorpion when you want to sit down. On the whole, I noted at the time, if I had to take an HP, it would be the fx, even though I don't need a folder, simply because it is a bit more dignified for men of certain maturity... Andre Jute Visit Andre's recipes: http://coolmainpress.com/andrejutefoodindex.html Andre, Thanks - didn't realize that there was that much difference. Looking at the seat heights, though, your estimate of four inches higher for the fx is pretty close. The Scorpion with each of the three seat options is at 10, 11, and 14.5 inches. The Scorpion fx with the same three seats is at 13, 15, and 18 inches. May be well worth the extra couple of hundred dollars to me, whether it is ever folded or not. Did you try either trike with more than one seat? Am wondering if, when the seat height dimension is increased from 13 to 15 inches, the height of the front edge of the seat also increase by two inches? I believe that the 13 and 15 inches refer to the distance between the bottom of the rider's bottom and the ground. Thanks again; it feels like I'm getting closer and closer, Kerry |
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On 4/26/2011 7:29 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Apr 26, 4:58 am, "Kerry wrote: At present am leaning toward a HP Velotechnik Scorpion fx, or, if I can fit it in the Impreza wagon, the plain Scorpion. They're available with derailleur gears, disc brakes, and any one of three seat heights. Thanks much, Kerry Though they're similarly named, the Scorpion and the Scorpion fx are not the same trike at all. On the Scorpion you sit very low, your feet above seat level. On the fx you sit maybe four inches higher, with your feet below the seat level. The seating arrangement of the fx is nearer to the Anthrotech that was my own first choice, and my first recommendation to you. The fx isn't so far down as the Scorpion when you want to sit down. On the whole, I noted at the time, if I had to take an HP, it would be the fx, even though I don't need a folder, simply because it is a bit more dignified for men of certain maturity... On the other hand, many will find having the bottom bracket above seat height to be much more comfortable and efficient. I have through thousands of miles of experimentation come to prefer a bottom bracket at least 15 cm above seat height. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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On Apr 27, 1:51*am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote:
Andre Jute wrote: On Apr 26, 4:58 am, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote: At present am leaning toward a HP Velotechnik Scorpion fx, or, if I can fit it in the Impreza wagon, the plain Scorpion. They're available with derailleur gears, disc brakes, and any one of three seat heights. Thanks much, Kerry Though they're similarly named, the Scorpion and the Scorpion fx are not the same trike at all. On the Scorpion you sit very low, your feet above seat level. On the fx you sit maybe four inches higher, with your feet below the seat level. The seating arrangement of the fx is nearer to the Anthrotech that was my own first choice, and my first recommendation to you. The fx isn't so far down as the Scorpion when you want to sit down. On the whole, I noted at the time, if I had to take an HP, it would be the fx, even though I don't need a folder, simply because it is a bit more dignified for men of certain maturity... Andre Jute Visit Andre's recipes: *http://coolmainpress.com/andrejutefoodindex.html Andre, Thanks - didn't realize that there was that much difference. Looking at the seat heights, though, your estimate of four inches higher for the fx is pretty close. The Scorpion with each of the three seat options is at 10, 11, and 14.5 inches. The Scorpion fx with the same three seats is at 13, 15, and 18 inches. May be well worth the extra couple of hundred dollars to me, whether it is ever folded or not. Did you try either trike with more than one seat? Am wondering if, when the seat height dimension is increased from 13 to 15 inches, the height of the front edge of the seat also increase by two inches? I believe that the 13 and 15 inches refer to the distance between the bottom of the rider's bottom and the ground. Thanks again; it feels like I'm getting closer and closer, Kerry Kerry, I'd like to help you, but I had an afternoon to try several trikes in a parking lot, not a fair test. That's about what made an impression on me, that the fx seat was a useful amount higher, if not as high as the Anthrotech seat (I wasn't testing them back to back, unfortunately), but that the HP trikes were better designed, neater, to make up for being about 30% pricier than the Anthrotech. Sure, I was told there were other seats for the HPs but they had by my request fitted the highest seats before I arrived, so I never tried the others. See, my riding is all on public roads, whereas my understanding is that you are happy to take your trike to special venues, and even the dealers were doubtful about a trike on my narrow lanes with cars and tractors. In the end I bought a two-wheel recumbent made by Giant (Liddell Tommi told me it is classed as a semi-recumbent), from which you could put your feet on the ground. Those mickey mouse wheels didn't light my fire, and I shortly passed it on and, after further adventures (crankforward bikes in my geribike experiments), Chalo suggested I give Utopia (which I earlier dismissed as odd and outrageously expensive) another look, and there I found happiness. In short, my trike experience is negligible, though I made a thorough paper investigation at the time to arrive at a shortlist. The HP is clearly the best of the generally available top brands (quality of construction, availability of parts, etc). But then, so it should be. You're paying a stiff premium for German workmanship. Sir Henry Royce said,"The quality will please long after the price is forgotten." Something in that! Good luck. Andre Jute |
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On 4/26/2011 10:35 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
[...] See, my riding is all on public roads, whereas my understanding is that you are happy to take your trike to special venues, and even the dealers were doubtful about a trike on my narrow lanes with cars and tractors.[...] Not a problem in the real world. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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