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Old October 22nd 04, 11:50 AM
Elisa Francesca Roselli
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Thanks for clarifying. The reason I didn't get it is that I was not imagining the
possibility of locking bikes at the departure and arrival stations. There is no
secure parking (in fact, no bike racks at all) at either station or at the bus
stop, and the bikes can only be stored safely at home or in my office next to me.
Apart from that, it's not a bad idea.

EFR
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Old October 22nd 04, 12:03 PM
Ian Walker
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In article ,
Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:

Thanks for clarifying. The reason I didn't get it is that I was not imagining
the
possibility of locking bikes at the departure and arrival stations. There is
no
secure parking (in fact, no bike racks at all) at either station or at the
bus
stop, and the bikes can only be stored safely at home or in my office next to
me.
Apart from that, it's not a bad idea.

EFR
Ile de France


When I worked in Germany, this was precisely what a lot of my colleagues
did - a cheap old bike locked at each station. Great idea.

Ian
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Old October 22nd 04, 12:26 PM
Elisa Francesca Roselli
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Ian Walker wrote:

When I worked in Germany, this was precisely what a lot of my colleagues
did - a cheap old bike locked at each station. Great idea.


I have a cheap bike that I use for supermarket runs. But at the supermarket I can
lock her in a covered bike rack. I know this sounds crazy, but I love the bike and
the idea of her sitting out in the rain and having evil skinheads steal the
moveable bits or **** on her or damage her breaks my heart.

EFR
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Old October 22nd 04, 12:38 PM
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Congratulations on demonstrating the journey in the form of a state
machine. Background in Computer Science by any chance?

Jon
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Old October 22nd 04, 12:57 PM
Colin Blackburn
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:38:56 +0100, Jon Senior
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Congratulations on demonstrating the journey in the form of a state
machine. Background in Computer Science by any chance?


I'd've done it as three separate statecharts, one for Elisa and one for
each bike.

cOOlin



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Old October 22nd 04, 01:31 PM
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Jon Senior writes:

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Congratulations on demonstrating the journey in the form of a state
machine. Background in Computer Science by any chance?


.... for my sins


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Old October 22nd 04, 02:09 PM
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Paul Rudin wrote:

Elisa Francesca Roselli writes:


Jacques Moser wrote:


For someone who has wants to commute with a combination of bike and
public transportation, I wonder if it would be an option to have two
inexpensive bikes, one at each end of the trip ?


How would that help? If you can't comfortably get one bike on a train, having
a second in another place isn't going to change anything.



I think you're missing suggestion:

Initial state:
You - at home
Bike 1 - at home
Bike 2 - at desination station.

Then cycle to home station using bike 1, state becomes:

You - at home statiom
Bike 1 - at home station
Bike 2 - at destintion station

Then get the train, state becomes:

You - at destination station
Bike 1 - at home station
Bike 2 - at desintation station

Then cycle to work using bike 2.

You - at work
Bike 1 - at home station
Bike 2 - at work.


... now follow through your trip home in the same fashion and you'll
find you get back to the initial state, ready to repeat the whole
thing the next day.


Which is fine, assuming that when left at the station the bikes are not
damaged/brakes interfered with/stolen.....The guy in the next office
tried that when he couldn't take a bike on the train, he now drives...
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Old October 22nd 04, 03:21 PM
Paul Rudin
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"njfbadger" writes:


Which is fine, assuming that when left at the station the bikes are
not damaged/brakes interfered with/stolen.....The guy in the next
office tried that when he couldn't take a bike on the train, he now
drives...


Well - here (Cambridge) lots of people (including SWMBO) commute to
London by train and leave their bikes at the station. Of course there
is a chance that your bike will get nicked, but I don't think it
happens very often.

Given that driving in the rush hour would take (at least) twice as
long to get into Central London a bike a year or so would probably not
be a bad price to pay anyway...
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Old October 22nd 04, 03:27 PM
Matt O'Toole
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Ian Walker wrote:

In article ,


Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:

Thanks for clarifying. The reason I didn't get it is that I was not
imagining the
possibility of locking bikes at the departure and arrival stations.
There is no
secure parking (in fact, no bike racks at all) at either station or
at the bus
stop, and the bikes can only be stored safely at home or in my
office next to me.
Apart from that, it's not a bad idea.


When I worked in Germany, this was precisely what a lot of my
colleagues did - a cheap old bike locked at each station. Great idea.


In Japan, they have secure bike parking at many train stations, often with an
attendant. Not that a bike would be stolen or vandalized in Japan anyway...

One of the better ideas to come along in awhile is Bikestation:

http://bikestation.org/

Matt O.


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Old October 22nd 04, 03:46 PM
Jym Dyer
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I wonder if it would be an option to have two inexpensive
bikes, one at each end of the trip ?

How would that help? If you can't comfortably get one bike
on a train, having a second in another place isn't going to
change anything.


=v= It's how the Dutch do it: There's a place at every train
station where you can lock up a bike (or rent a standard Dutch
"Gazelle" bike). In the U.S., a similar approach is being tried
out in the form of "bikestations:"

http://www.bikestation.org/

This works best if you've got a bikestation at *every* train
stop, not just a handful of them, and unfortunately the U.S.
doesn't make biking *or* rail much of a priority.
_Jym_
 




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