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Old May 31st 19, 10:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_5_]
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Default More from the UK: "Bike lanes save lives of drivers as well ascyclists, study finds"

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:06:10 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/31/2019 10:16 AM, jbeattie wrote:
Lack of education or intelligence is a serious problem here and a problem with bike lanes generally. If motorists simply understood that a bike lane was a "lane" and that they had to look for traffic before changing lanes, at least half of the right-hooks would be eliminated.


While I agree that American motorists need education pretty badly, I'd
also say the same about people who design bike lanes. Those designers
give motorists a difficult and unfamiliar problem.

In 99.9% of the cases where a motorist turns right, he's already in the
rightmost lane. There is no "straight ahead" lane to the right of him,
and it's obvious why. Roadways are normally designed with "destination
positioning" to avoid that obvious conflict. Can you imagine signs on a
six-lane freeway telling the person in the _middle_ lane that he's
supposed to shoot rightward to an exit? Or signs telling the person in
the right lane that he's supposed to watch out for that? It's geometric
nonsense.

So motorist assume nobody will be passing them on the right as they turn
right. And if anyone is passing on the right, they're very likely in one
of the driver's blind spots. You can hope and pray that Portland
motorists will catch on to the weirdness and be extra careful; and you
can hope and pray the motorist has good flexibility (to pivot around and
search for bicyclists); but there will always be less agile motorists
and those who are encountering the weirdness for the first time.


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- Frank Krygowski



so you think that it is a difficult problem to stay in your own marked lane?

If a motorists is signaling a right turn and he is there before you HE HAS RIGHT OF WAY. Or don't you know that? Now if he isn't signaling and you pass him on the right he is required to look before proceeding.

Wake up, there is no need for you to argue simply for the sake of doing so.
 




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