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Richard Adams writes:
I didn't feel I berated anyone, I simply further poked fun at them. The sad part for an all-arounder of Basso's calibre is that he's apparently on the wrong team and only had two comrades left at the end of the race. Probably why he's in advanced talks with CSC, the better to be on a team which contests more than the last 500m of a stage, considering where his capacities lie. You apparently don't follow European professional racing if you think that of Fassa Bortolo and Giancarlo Ferretti, although admittedly they haven't had a stellar year. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Softwa http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ |
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Van Hoorebeeck Bart writes:
"David N. Welton" schreef: You apparently don't follow European professional racing if you think that of Fassa Bortolo and Giancarlo Ferretti, although admittedly they haven't had a stellar year. 1 Fassa Bortolo 6,729.75 pts Well of course... but aside from Petacchi, and Pippo Pozzato's spring, they have certainly won races, but not too many big ones, IIRC. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Softwa http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ |
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The guy you reacted too must have missed the Fassa team got 'ill' in the
Tour, which only left 3 of them. And he must have missed that calibers like Frigo and Bartoli are on the team, who didn't deliver top wins this year. He also must have missed that Ferretti has cherished an attacking philosophy through the years. The Petacchi 2003 phenomenon is a -welcome- exception for his team. There are true talents like Montgomery carrying bottles in the team, that's right. When guys like that get ready for more, the whole peloton will notice though. Of course Danielson could also go to a smaller team and peak for Langkawi again.... |
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A lieutenant to Basso is the only way I see this. Someone to look after him after Cipo Basso is talking to CSC....TH rumours to be true? we'll soon know.... |
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well said! Dumb people always think they should satart out at the top!
"Kyle Legate" wrote in message s.com... Tom Schulenburg wrote: Does this move make sense to anyone? Fasso Bortolo seems to be so loaded with talent, he'd be lucky if they let him carry water bottles. Which is exactly the job he needs for the first year. I'm sure he sees FB as a development step and realizes that he can't just show up in Europe and be a superstar without paying the dues, and suffering through the same learning curve as everyone else. |
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I suppose you can ride your bicycle up Mount Washington i less than 49:25? I
really find it amazing how people are so smart when it comes to a persons ability! Maybe next year I'll see you peddle you big arse up the rock pile? "Bikerecker" wrote in message ... T.D. Betting pool starts here. The kid will get his arse handed to him so many times, it will be sick to watch. We'll see maybe one good day from him per year the next 6 years, usually around contract talk time, too. Can you say, "deer; with headlights in the eyes?" Yes. The deer won' tjust be blinded, though, the deer will be crushed by the speeding semi with the headlights that blinded poor lil Bambi. The Ities will wreck Danielson. If the boy had a brain, he would join USPS, and let them wreck him. Lance has got one more year before he retires, and the "Next-Lance" (not the next Greg Lemond-next Lance, but the real "Next Lance") could step right in for his shellacking. Not making much sense, Greg |
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"Bob" wrote in message ... well said! Dumb people always think they should satart out at the top! "Kyle Legate" wrote in message s.com... Tom Schulenburg wrote: Does this move make sense to anyone? Fasso Bortolo seems to be so loaded with talent, he'd be lucky if they let him carry water bottles. Which is exactly the job he needs for the first year. I'm sure he sees FB as a development step and realizes that he can't just show up in Europe and be a superstar without paying the dues, and suffering through the same learning curve as everyone else. My thought was that Fasso Bortolo has so much talent, that TD would have a hard time making the squad for big races. He'd end up ridding second tier races against the same (or lower) competition that he raced against in the US. I would have thought that there'd be a squad that would be willing to sign him and let him ride some of the bigger races as a second "protected" rider, or set him up for a stage win in a grand tour. I don't see that happening with FB. If Basso and Pozzato stick around, it would seem that there would be too much "young" talent there for TD to develop his potential. I'm not saying he shouldn't pay his dues, I'm just not sure he'll get the opportunity to do that with FB. -T |
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My thought was that Fasso Bortolo has so much talent, that TD would have a hard time making the squad for big races. He'd end up ridding second tier races against the same (or lower) competition that he raced against in the US. I would have thought that there'd be a squad that would be willing to sign him and let him ride some of the bigger races as a second "protected" rider, or set him up for a stage win in a grand tour. I don't see that happening with FB. If Basso and Pozzato stick around, it would seem that there would be too much "young" talent there for TD to develop his potential. I'm not saying he shouldn't pay his dues, I'm just not sure he'll get the opportunity to do that with FB. Take a look through the last few days at cyclingnnews.com and notice that Basso will likely go to CSC.... Bartoli is shopping, Ivanov has gone to T-Mobile, Pozzato is sticking around so far as is Peta but the rest of em are movin' on or are domestique types not likely to place in big races, or as in the case of one A Gonzales just suck. |
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In article ,
"Tom Schulenburg" wrote: My thought was that Fasso Bortolo has so much talent, that TD would have a hard time making the squad for big races. He'd end up ridding second tier races against the same (or lower) competition that he raced against in the US. I would have thought that there'd be a squad that would be willing to sign him and let him ride some of the bigger races as a second "protected" rider, or set him up for a stage win in a grand tour. Some riders are known as super special before they even turn pro (Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault in the past, Ullrich more recently). Others take years to mature while serving as domestiques (Indurain is the most obvious example of this kind). Any DS will see right away if a youg rider is super special and use him accordingly. If he is more of the "need nurturing and maturing" kind, then Fassa Bortolo is probably a very good choice: They obviously have an interest in nurturing talent, otherwise they wouldn't have bet on Ivan Basso and Sven Montgomery when they were just promising your riders. jyh. -- ================================================== =================== jean-yves herve' /\ Department of Computer Science \/ e-mail -- and Statistics /\ University of Rhode Island \/ Tel. -- (401) 874-4400 Kingston, RI 02881-0816 /\ Fax. -- (401) 874-4617 USA \/ ================================================== =================== |
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"jean-yves hervé" wrote in message Some riders are known as super special before they even turn pro (Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault in the past, Ullrich more recently). Others take years to mature while serving as domestiques (Indurain is the most obvious example of this kind). You are SO WRONG. Indurain was picked (based on lab tests) to be a future Tour winner from 1985-1986. He needed to drop weight without losing power and Conconi laid out a 5 year plan to make him a Tour winner. Padilla did the detail planning and it turned out exactly as expected. Maybe you are speaking from a fan perspective. |
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