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On 10/22/2019 2:21 PM, sms wrote:
I've never seen anyone lose a wheel, either before or after lawyer lips were introduced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuFejyvKhq8 and many others. Admittedly, you can find anything on YouTube. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 4:55:26 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 10/21/2019 8:34 AM, jbeattie wrote: snip I have them on a disc CX bike that has QRs, and they're not getting ground off. I also have them on a Emonda SLR frame, and they're not getting ground off. Why grind up a nice set of light CF forks? I'm not racing, and they do have a legitimate safety function. People grind them off on principle. "I'm smart enough to check the QRs before each ride so why should I have to take three more seconds to remove a wheel when fixing a flat or putting the bike on a fork mount rack? It isn't a bother putting your bike on the rack. It is a REAL bother along side of a busy high speed road trying to get the hell out of there before some lout talking on his cell phone center punches you at 60 mph. |
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:04:31 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/22/2019 1:44 AM, John B. wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 18:04:56 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 21 October 2019 20:54:11 UTC-4, John B. wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 07:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, 21 October 2019 10:41:09 UTC-4, wrote: On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+2, wrote: On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 3:12:32 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 11:59:37 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote: Everyone always grinds lawyer's lips off as a first order of maintenance. Really? On CF forks? Not me. -- Jay Beattie. As much as it pains me, I'll sort of agree with Tom on this. On all but one of my bikes I have ground off the tabs on the fork ends. The only fork I did not grind off is a carbon fork with an aero blade so the fork end is about 2 inches long. Can't grind that much metal off. All my carbon forks have aluminum dropouts, not carbon dropouts. So grinding is safe. Even on carbon dropouts I grind off the laywer lips. On my CF bikes it is just a little carbon blob. Grinding, actually filling, off that little blob doesn't compromize the strength of your fork. It is as save as shorten your CF steerer tube or MTB handlebar. There is no load on that part. Which brings up an irritation. With no fork tabs, you do not have to unscrew the dropout nut. Just flip the lever and the wheel falls out and goes back in perfectly. But sometimes when getting rides from friends, they will take the front wheel off my bike to put it on a rack. And when they take the front wheel off, the very first thing they do is start unscrewing the quick release nut. Which messes up my quick release width and I have to then readjust the dang thing when putting the wheel back on. Most bicyclists have been made stupid and dumb from this dumb fork tab feature. They no longer know how to correctly remove a front wheel on a bicycle. +1 Laywer lips is an incredible stupid safety feature. Every time you take out your frontwheel creates a safety hazard. Lou Lawyer Lips almost defeat the purpose of having a quick release. Cheers Really? I can't say that I have any problems removing a wheel, with a quick release, from a fork with lawyer's lips. -- cheers, John B. You have to turn the quick release lever to open the thing enough to get past those lawyer lips. Without the lawyer lips you just need to open the quick release to drop out the wheel. Cheers True, but trying to wiggle the wheel up under the fender or get both ends of the axle in the slot while holding the rear derailer so the chain is loose I almost always end up winding the quick release almost off, lips or no lips :-( -- cheers, John B. ?? derailleur? I don't speak French :-) Rears don't have wheel retention devices as an unsecured wheel simply drags on the chainstay without a rider safety aspect. No wheel retention, but trying to hold the rear of the bike up off the ground, hold the derailer back to clear the cassette, make sure that the chain isn't going to fall in the dirt, and wiggle the axle out of the drop outs, I always seem to have to loosen the quick release a considerable way. And putting the wheel back on is even worse :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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On 10/21/2019 9:36 PM, John B. wrote:
snip Frank has commented on the mechanical ability of the average him/her/it and I think that he is right. If you doubt me just go to any big box store and watch the guy assembling bicycles :-) We don't have many Walmarts around my area but the one in Mountain View used to have a real bike shop with a real bicycle mechanic in the front of the store. It may have been a leased out department. They removed it at least ten years ago. Now all the bicycle accessories are locked up in cases, I guess they are high theft items. |
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On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 1:36:21 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
Again, skippy, The link you posted directly contradicts your claim. So, who is it that doesn't know what they're talking about? On the smartest day of your life you couldn't out-think a tin pan could you? That's a question you should be asking yourself. Someone that claims to be the world's expert in anything and everything I've never claimed that. Not even close. In fact, I'm smart enough to know that the more I learn, the more I find out I don't know. You don't seem to understand the complexity of life in general. cannot even understand the English Language. You me the english language in your link that lists specific riders bikes that are equipped with discs? You really are beyond pathetic. Rather than actually address the issue, the entire content of your argument is 'you're stupid'. You really aren't with the trouble. |
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On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 8:52:56 AM UTC-7, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 1:36:21 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote: Again, skippy, The link you posted directly contradicts your claim. So, who is it that doesn't know what they're talking about? On the smartest day of your life you couldn't out-think a tin pan could you? That's a question you should be asking yourself. Someone that claims to be the world's expert in anything and everything I've never claimed that. Not even close. In fact, I'm smart enough to know that the more I learn, the more I find out I don't know. You don't seem to understand the complexity of life in general. cannot even understand the English Language. You me the english language in your link that lists specific riders bikes that are equipped with discs? You really are beyond pathetic. Rather than actually address the issue, the entire content of your argument is 'you're stupid'. You really aren't with the trouble. You mean the list that shows more riders ride with rim brakes than disks? And despite saying that they use disks on TT bikes the vast majority don't? Or that Guess Who didn't even ride his sponsor's bike because it had disks on the TT bike? |
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On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 3:45:07 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 8:52:56 AM UTC-7, Zen Cycle wrote: On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 1:36:21 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote: Again, skippy, The link you posted directly contradicts your claim. So, who is it that doesn't know what they're talking about? On the smartest day of your life you couldn't out-think a tin pan could you? That's a question you should be asking yourself. Someone that claims to be the world's expert in anything and everything I've never claimed that. Not even close. In fact, I'm smart enough to know that the more I learn, the more I find out I don't know. You don't seem to understand the complexity of life in general. cannot even understand the English Language. You me the english language in your link that lists specific riders bikes that are equipped with discs? You really are beyond pathetic. Rather than actually address the issue, the entire content of your argument is 'you're stupid'. You really aren't with the trouble. You mean the list that shows more riders ride with rim brakes than disks? And despite saying that they use disks on TT bikes the vast majority don't? Or that Guess Who didn't even ride his sponsor's bike because it had disks on the TT bike? Your initial post was wrong. Mavic neutral support does carry disc wheels https://tinyurl.com/yyc25cmv; pros riding flat-inducing courses like the Paris Roubaix are riding discs, including this year's winner. https://www.cyclingnews.com/features...at-debut-race/ Some pro teams use disc wheels and some do not. When the spring classics start, we'll have a better idea of who is riding what. BTW, Alaphilippe won the TdF TT on a disc-equipped Specialized Shiv: https://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-fr...n-alaphilippe/ Most people do not fear discs. I was riding rim brakes today, and in the wet leaves and muck, the pads sounded like a lathe on my tender aluminum brake tracks on the Dura-Ace wheels. I wish I had discs. In fact, I wish I had a gravel bike rather than a race bike on the leaf covered dirt road climb. -- Jay Beattie. |
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