Heartrate comparison training zones cycling and running - same athlete

Has any reader got a reasonable comparison of heartrate training zones
for the same person (me) acroos these two disciplines?

My feeling is that the perception of exertion in running is higher for
the same heartrate - the fatigue in running is skeletal and msucular
and from cycling it is usually cardio-pulminary.
I realise that there are a huge number of variables eg I am a well
trained and reasonably cyclist and have not structurally run for many
years.

Thanks for any replies.

Justin

On Nov 7, 10:42*am, Justin Lewis
wrote:
Has any reader got a reasonable comparison of heartrate training zones
for the same person (me) across these two disciplines?

My feeling is that the perception of exertion in running is higher for
the same heartrate - the fatigue in running is skeletal and msucular
and from cycling it is usually cardio-pulminary.
I realise that there are a huge number of variables eg I am a well
trained and reasonably cyclist and have not structurally run for many
years.

Thanks for any replies.

Justin

I think the training zones are exactly the same for both cycling and
running.

http://www.machinehead-software.co.u..._abcc_bcf.html

However, in my experience, it is easier to get into zone 5 by running,
as you are having to expend more energy by using more muscles and you
have to support your weight as well. I used to reach my maximum heart
rate when playing 5 a side quite readily, but to get my heart into the
same zone through cycling is quite hard. I have to cycle up a local
12% hill at about 10mph to get there.

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Simon Mason

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 03:14:03 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:42*am, Justin Lewis
wrote:
Has any reader got a reasonable comparison of heartrate training zones
for the same person (me) across these two disciplines?

My feeling is that the perception of exertion in running is higher for
the same heartrate - the fatigue in running is skeletal and msucular
and from cycling it is usually cardio-pulminary.
I realise that there are a huge number of variables eg I am a well
trained and reasonably cyclist and have not structurally run for many
years.

Thanks for any replies.

Justin

I think the training zones are exactly the same for both cycling and
running.

http://www.machinehead-software.co.u..._abcc_bcf.html

However, in my experience, it is easier to get into zone 5 by running,
as you are having to expend more energy by using more muscles and you
have to support your weight as well. I used to reach my maximum heart
rate when playing 5 a side quite readily, but to get my heart into the
same zone through cycling is quite hard. I have to cycle up a local
12% hill at about 10mph to get there.
Thanks for the reply and link. I think that I am just about seeing the
first improvements in the mechanics of my running - I have been
training 3 times a week since July. This means that I am now able to
run in the higher heart rate zones.

Haven't played football for years! Was asked to play at work until
they heard that I am a West Ham fan!

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:42:24 +0100, Justin Lewis
wrote:

Has any reader got a reasonable comparison of heartrate training zones
for the same person (me) acroos these two disciplines?

My feeling is that the perception of exertion in running is higher for
the same heartrate - the fatigue in running is skeletal and msucular
and from cycling it is usually cardio-pulminary.
I realise that there are a huge number of variables eg I am a well
trained and reasonably cyclist and have not structurally run for many
years.

Thanks for any replies.

Justin



I saw a leaflet in my doctors which was comparing the benefits of
cycling, running, and walking, in particular the effect on the heart.

I will have a look next week and see if I can get a copy. It may have
some references to other material in it.

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:42:24 +0100, Justin Lewis
wrote:

Has any reader got a reasonable comparison of heartrate training zones
for the same person (me) acroos these two disciplines?

My feeling is that the perception of exertion in running is higher for
the same heartrate - the fatigue in running is skeletal and msucular
and from cycling it is usually cardio-pulminary.
I realise that there are a huge number of variables eg I am a well
trained and reasonably cyclist and have not structurally run for many
years.

Thanks for any replies.

Justin


Hello it's Dick Wadd - or is it Justin Lewis today?

Why not try a new name - that'll really confuse people.

I knew you were a tosser when you first arrived - you are in good
company making the simple IP address mistake:

Porky Chapman
Raving Raven
Zit Whitehead

to name but three.


--
DfT: Year ending June 2010:

Pedestrian casualties down 3%
Car casualties down 3%
Motorcycle casualties down 6%
Motorcyclists KSI down 6%
Car users KSI down 9%
Pedestrians KSI down 8%

Oh - hang on - there are some missing :

Cyclist casualties up 4%
Cyclist KSI up 1%

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:11:14 +0000, AC
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:42:24 +0100, Justin Lewis
wrote:

Has any reader got a reasonable comparison of heartrate training zones
for the same person (me) acroos these two disciplines?

My feeling is that the perception of exertion in running is higher for
the same heartrate - the fatigue in running is skeletal and msucular
and from cycling it is usually cardio-pulminary.
I realise that there are a huge number of variables eg I am a well
trained and reasonably cyclist and have not structurally run for many
years.

Thanks for any replies.

Justin



I saw a leaflet in my doctors which was comparing the benefits of
cycling, running, and walking, in particular the effect on the heart.

I will have a look next week and see if I can get a copy. It may have
some references to other material in it.
Thanks. Coincidentally, many cyclists find it difficult to reach the
sustained high heartrates of a road training on
ergometers/hometrainers. I have not yet found an explanation of that
discrepancy.

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:27:18 +0000, JMS
wrote:

Plonk

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:21:15 +0100, Justin Lewis
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:27:18 +0000, JMS
wrote:

Plonk


Oh diddums - did the nasty person point out that Justin Dick Wadd had
been caught out nym-shifting.

I thought you might offer an explanation; I'm sure you could have made
up a good reason.

You're not denying it are you?

--
DfT: Year ending June 2010:

Pedestrian casualties down 3%
Car casualties down 3%
Motorcycle casualties down 6%
Motorcyclists KSI down 6%
Car users KSI down 9%
Pedestrians KSI down 8%

Oh - hang on - there are some missing :

Cyclist casualties up 4%
Cyclist KSI up 1%

On Nov 7, 7:17*pm, JMS wrote:

had been caught out nym-shifting.

Judith,

Is that you you are talking about?

Why the obsession with others nym-shifting when you have done it so
often yourself?
You should be careful, you may come across as a hypocrite.

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:56:03 -0800 (PST), PhilO
wrote:

On Nov 7, 7:17*pm, JMS wrote:

had been caught out nym-shifting.

Judith,

Is that you you are talking about?

Why the obsession with others nym-shifting when you have done it so
often yourself?

You should be careful, you may come across as a hypocrite.


When I have done so (for good reason) - I have admitted it.

You know when you asked me "Have you ever nym-shifted?" - to which I
replied "Yes".

On the other hand : Porky Chapman (Lou Knee), Zit Whitehead, Justin
Dick Wadd and Raving Raven have all been caught but just won't admit
it.

--
DfT: Year ending June 2010:

Pedestrian casualties down 3%
Car casualties down 3%
Motorcycle casualties down 6%
Motorcyclists KSI down 6%
Car users KSI down 9%
Pedestrians KSI down 8%

Oh - hang on - there are some missing :

Cyclist casualties up 4%
Cyclist KSI up 1%