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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I
will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
On 8/31/2017 1:55 PM, Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? Not anything new: http://www.americanindustrialtire.com/foamfilled.htm See your local skid-steer equipment dealer -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/31/2017 1:55 PM, Joerg wrote: Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? Not anything new: http://www.americanindustrialtire.com/foamfilled.htm See your local skid-steer equipment dealer He should get the Nashbar Conestoga wheels: http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/we...4778_1_0_1.jpg They come with a custom rock for roadside repairs. Just type in the discount code ROCK4U. -- Jay Beattie. |
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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/31/2017 1:55 PM, Joerg wrote: Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? Not anything new: http://www.americanindustrialtire.com/foamfilled.htm See your local skid-steer equipment dealer -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Never saw that stuff before. What I did see was tires willed with polyurethane foam that hardened. Pretty screwed up. This stuff looks like it will solve Joerg's problem. Though it ain't for road tires. |
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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
On 2017-08-31 12:21, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/31/2017 1:55 PM, Joerg wrote: Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? Not anything new: http://www.americanindustrialtire.com/foamfilled.htm See your local skid-steer equipment dealer Thanks. AFAIK that only works with tires that have large volumes but I'll inquire. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 2:55:06 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Fill tubes with wet concrete, allow to hardern = no more flats. VBEG LOL Cheers |
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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? As usual - no. Weight from Mr. Tuffy's is insignificant. Construction foam would cause a tire to fail almost immediately. First by breaking it up into chunks and then collapsing it. There is tubeless tires and sealant but these will not handle cuts or tears in the sidewalls of fat tires. If you can get the tube type from which you can extract the presta fitting then you can put in large amounts of sealant into the tube. When using this sealant you have to always stop or park the bike with the fill on the bottom of the wheel. All presta valves used to screw out but the times I've tried it recently was on cheap tubes and they were somehow fixed inside the nozzle. |
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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? Those who are serious about not getting flats make their own mr tuffys from old tires |
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Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?
On 2017-08-31 17:38, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs down from me. This brings up two questions: 1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes around? 2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer? The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially unfixable with those thin REMA patches. Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not matter. In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of thousand miles? Those who are serious about not getting flats make their own mr tuffys from old tires How do you do the overlap? It has to be cut because the radius inside is a smidgen smaller than normal. I was thinking about making my own Mr.Tuffy from a 2nd thorn-resistant tube that is slit open lengthwise on the rim side. I'll see when the new tube gets here next week. There should be enough compliance in the rubber so there won;t be any wrinkles. Hopefully. The othe issue is that the smallest these tubes come is 700 x 23/25mm and even 23mm is a bit large if there is a another thick tube in there. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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