Spoke deflection - force

Those are the "all else being equal" factors, right?

kIRALY owns the DT wheel parts....we offer a different fork

K paid 2x for the same wheel....a question unanswered. Izzit the same standard for both given the higher rate for SWISS components ?

Have not compared the 2 rims in hand.

W

Those are the "all else being equal" factors, right?

kIRALY owns the DT wheel parts....we offer a different fork

K paid 2x for the same wheel....a question unanswered. Izzit the same standard for both given the higher rate for SWISS components ?

Have not compared the 2 rims in hand.

Why are front spokes torqued to the same level as the rear drive side ?

wrote:
K paid 2x for the same wheel....a question unanswered.

If you think a Sun Rhyno Lite and a DT TK540 are in any way comparable
you are completely misinformed. Or just posting nonsense for fun.

Have not compared the 2 rims in hand.

Obviously not.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

Stephen Bauman wrote:
1. Tire pressure compresses rim and thereby decreases spoke tension.

Is it really true? I measured spoke tension before and after mounting
and inflating a tire and there was no difference.

4. The usual rule of thumb is that front wheel spokes and rear driving-
side spokes have same tension.

That's good to know - thanks.



--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

On Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:08:31 PM UTC-5, Király wrote:
Stephen Bauman wrote:

1. Tire pressure compresses rim and thereby decreases spoke tension.



Is it really true? I measured spoke tension before and after mounting

and inflating a tire and there was no difference.



4. The usual rule of thumb is that front wheel spokes and rear driving-

side spokes have same tension.



That's good to know - thanks.







--

K.



Lang may your lum reek.

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if you compared the two rims tell us about that...


the equal tension idea doesn't jibe here....right side spokes have more tension than left caws the angle is greater.

but search here

https://www.google.com/#q=+front+whe...ined=undefined

On Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:33:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:

the equal tension idea doesn't jibe here....right side spokes have more tension than left caws the angle is greater.

IIRC, James uses different numbers of spokes on the left & right. That can yield equal tensions.

- Frank Krygowski

On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:35:20 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:33:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:



the equal tension idea doesn't jibe here....right side spokes have more tension than left caws the angle is greater.



IIRC, James uses different numbers of spokes on the left & right. That can yield equal tensions.



- Frank Krygowski

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Bauman wrote the FRONT spokes are the same torque as the drive side rear

I think he's pulling our spokes.

wrote:
if you compared the two rims tell us about that...

sigh

Sun rim has single eyelets. DT has double.
Sun rim has pinned joint. DT has welded.
Sun rim is a little heavier than DT.
Sun rim is so wide that it won't even fit on my bike. I'd have clearance
problems with the brake shoes and the front fork.

I wanted a 36-hole, tough touring rim, double wall with double
eyelets for strength, with an 18mm internal width to accommodate the
sizes of tires I tend to use, and an external width of no more than
25mm, to accommodate clearance between the brake shoes and my fork. The
DT fit the bill perfectly and was an almost exact replacement for the
Campagnolo Topaz rim that it replaced.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

On 15/12/13 17:34, Király wrote:
wrote:
if you compared the two rims tell us about that...

sigh

Sun rim has single eyelets. DT has double.
Sun rim has pinned joint. DT has welded.
Sun rim is a little heavier than DT.
Sun rim is so wide that it won't even fit on my bike. I'd have clearance
problems with the brake shoes and the front fork.

I wanted a 36-hole, tough touring rim, double wall with double
eyelets for strength, with an 18mm internal width to accommodate the
sizes of tires I tend to use, and an external width of no more than
25mm, to accommodate clearance between the brake shoes and my fork. The
DT fit the bill perfectly and was an almost exact replacement for the
Campagnolo Topaz rim that it replaced.


Do you have any test data that shows that double eyelets are any
stronger or more durable?

--
JS

LOOKS GOOD, but expensive.

how's the weight/width/height ratio comparison ?

My trekking cyclocrosser has 2.1/1.8 tires for loose ground flotation....tired of snubbing in __x

I took the same route going with parts to build, throwing away $150 ?

to DIY wheels using a one upgrade on parts.

Using long hard nipples avoids loosing tool grip on a smaller surface.