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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On 9/24/2017 10:02 AM, Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk, now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot. Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? Orange flavor would be great but doesn't matter much, as long as it's not any funky or excessively sweet flavor. No artificial sweeteners. Buy 25kg of coconut water powder for $395. Enough for 1250 bicycle water bottle fills, at 20 grams per bottle. About 32 cents per bottle. |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 12:22, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:03:06 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote: On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest wrote: Joerg wrote: For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk, now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot. Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste. Just read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of benign non-reasons to buy it. I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works. I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me) rides, especially in the heat. I do think it helps. But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the end or hours after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told me it sounded like a potassium deficiency. Take more of that supplement? ... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for a bit to see if it helps. My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain bike riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the peels. And then old Silver Hoof wants my bananas. You do NOT have to pack out the peels. Try it sometime and you will see. You eat the peels? In our area it is very frowned upon by rangers to chuck them into the bush. So what? If those guys didn't have deep-seated need to frown on ****, they wouldn't have become rangers in the first place. Means nothing. |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On 2017-09-26 13:19, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-09-26 12:22, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:03:06 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote: On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest wrote: Joerg wrote: For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk, now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot. Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste. Just read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of benign non-reasons to buy it. I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works. I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me) rides, especially in the heat. I do think it helps. But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the end or hours after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told me it sounded like a potassium deficiency. Take more of that supplement? ... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for a bit to see if it helps. My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain bike riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the peels. And then old Silver Hoof wants my bananas. You do NOT have to pack out the peels. Try it sometime and you will see. You eat the peels? In our area it is very frowned upon by rangers to chuck them into the bush. So what? If those guys didn't have deep-seated need to frown on ****, they wouldn't have become rangers in the first place. Means nothing. Until one of them hands you a ticket for littering which can set you back several hundred Dollars. I'd applaud the ranger for that. I never throw anything away in the wilderness or elsewhere. Ever. I find such behavior very anti-social. In fact, on singletrack I often pack out stuff that others tossed. We have enough homeless as it is who do this. They throw whatever they don't need into the bushes. Disgusting. Unfortunately careless MTB riders do that as well and it is likely the reason why some trails are closed for us. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 1:28:07 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 13:19, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-09-26 12:22, Doug Landau wrote: On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:03:06 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote: On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest wrote: Joerg wrote: For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk, now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot. Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste. Just read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of benign non-reasons to buy it. I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works. I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me) rides, especially in the heat. I do think it helps. But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the end or hours after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told me it sounded like a potassium deficiency. Take more of that supplement? ... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for a bit to see if it helps. My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain bike riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the peels. And then old Silver Hoof wants my bananas. You do NOT have to pack out the peels. Try it sometime and you will see. You eat the peels? In our area it is very frowned upon by rangers to chuck them into the bush. So what? If those guys didn't have deep-seated need to frown on ****, they wouldn't have become rangers in the first place. Means nothing. Until one of them hands you a ticket for littering which can set you back several hundred Dollars. I'd applaud the ranger for that. Fortunately he is rarely there when you take the last bite, and when he is, you can refrain. I never throw anything away in the wilderness or elsewhere. Ever. I find such behavior very anti-social. In fact, on singletrack I often pack out stuff that others tossed. A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. We have enough homeless as it is who do this. They throw whatever they don't need into the bushes. Disgusting. Unfortunately careless MTB riders do that as well and it is likely the reason why some trails are closed for us. The problem of, and problems associated with, human poverty is neither here nor there. None of this is based upon logic. It is Puritanism. |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. As it should be. I find it said that some people think it's ok to litter. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. Some think they're good for the soil: http://homeguides.sfgate.com/banana-...den-31257.html |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On 9/26/2017 7:24 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, sms wrote: On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: snip A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough. It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine. Some think they're good for the soil: http://homeguides.sfgate.com/banana-...den-31257.html Maybe _your_ soil. People who manage public lands are more excited about arranging chronic very large fires and shooting the owls that outbreed their preferred owls: http://www.npr.org/2014/01/15/262735...pecies-is-shot Fortunately we have public experts who can disabuse the public of their innate common sense. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg
wrote: Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced? I use diluted orange juice. Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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