I'm Tired Of These Ungrateful Hurricane Victims

Jeff Starr wrote:

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:25:51 -0700, Mark Hickey
wrote:

wrote:

If you work you get insurance.

Actually, if your place of employment offers insurance, you get the
opportunity to get insurance - usually with some sort of nominal
payment required on the employee's part. Many opt not to pay this and
to simply take their chances. The employees that do so show up as
"uninsured" in the statistics.

"Nominal"? Apparently what you consider "nominal", others consider
the difference between insurance and other necessities.I don't have
exact numbers, but the amounts that I have heard, are extremely high.

rant snipped

Perhaps you should check into the co-pay for insurance from those
folks who actually have a job (the ones I'm talking about above).
Perhaps you don't have any working friends? Perhaps you mis-read my
post? Perhaps we have different definitions of "nominal".

Granted if you pay the co-pay for most health plans, you may have to
skip a couple six-packs a week... or maybe drink the pedestrian
domestic stuff instead. But it's been proven that people who
contribute something to their health care costs tend to make MUCH
better decisions than those who don't.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:35:18 -0700, Mark Hickey
wrote:


"Nominal"? Apparently what you consider "nominal", others consider
the difference between insurance and other necessities.I don't have
exact numbers, but the amounts that I have heard, are extremely high.

rant snipped

Perhaps you should check into the co-pay for insurance from those
folks who actually have a job (the ones I'm talking about above).
Perhaps you don't have any working friends? Perhaps you mis-read my
post? Perhaps we have different definitions of "nominal".

Granted if you pay the co-pay for most health plans, you may have to
skip a couple six-packs a week... or maybe drink the pedestrian
domestic stuff instead. But it's been proven that people who
contribute something to their health care costs tend to make MUCH
better decisions than those who don't.

Mark Hickey
Oh my, let me think, could a liberal like me, have friends who have
jobs. Geez condescend much. I understand what employee co-pay is, and
what people are expected to pay, is way too much.

And why is it, anytime someone complains about cost, you assume that
the money will be spent on alcohol or luxuries?

Perhaps we do have different definitions of nominal, in this
situation. A couple hundred dollars a month is not nominal to me.

Jeff

Jeff Starr wrote:

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:35:18 -0700, Mark Hickey
wrote:

"Nominal"? Apparently what you consider "nominal", others consider
the difference between insurance and other necessities.I don't have
exact numbers, but the amounts that I have heard, are extremely high.

rant snipped

Perhaps you should check into the co-pay for insurance from those
folks who actually have a job (the ones I'm talking about above).
Perhaps you don't have any working friends? Perhaps you mis-read my
post? Perhaps we have different definitions of "nominal".

Granted if you pay the co-pay for most health plans, you may have to
skip a couple six-packs a week... or maybe drink the pedestrian
domestic stuff instead. But it's been proven that people who
contribute something to their health care costs tend to make MUCH
better decisions than those who don't.

Mark Hickey
Oh my, let me think, could a liberal like me, have friends who have
jobs. Geez condescend much. I understand what employee co-pay is, and
what people are expected to pay, is way too much.

Yet you think that we'll end up paying LESS somehow if the government
takes over? That "couple hundred bucks" will seem like a gold-plated
deal by the time that's over...

And why is it, anytime someone complains about cost, you assume that
the money will be spent on alcohol or luxuries?

I don't - that was just the first example that popped into my head. I
could have used Starbucks (probably even a better example).

Perhaps we do have different definitions of nominal, in this
situation. A couple hundred dollars a month is not nominal to me.

I haven't seen many plans with co-pays that high. Some family plans
for the higher-end options can run that high on my wife's plan, but
the co-pay for most of the plans for the two of us is in the $30-40
per month range (which I do consider nominal).

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame