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Building a Campy Crashterium Bike
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"Gooserider" wrote: "John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message ... On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:43:25 GMT, Jasper Janssen wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:02:12 -0500, John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: I think you need to re-examine your approach to the sport. Criteriums are not anymore dangerous than road races -- at least in terms of crashes that are hard to avoid. Out of curiosity, do you have personal experience with that? The average experience with crits seems to be that crashes are much more frequent and large there. Lot of racing, used to do a lot of coaching on technique, including not crashing in races. That wasn't the question. Are crits more prone to have crashes? Extrapolating from anecdotal evidence is always perilous, but I happen to belong to a roughly 50-member racing club, and I did a powerpoint presentation in order to make fun of the Crash Award nominees at our recent dinner. A rough tally of the overly numerous incidents: 4 riders crashed in separate road races, including me. 4 crashes (split between three riders) in crits; one in our training crits, three in a single very popular and crashy crit. 1 velodrome crash 1 broken hip during a training ride 1 failure-to-unclip 0 mph flop during a training ride (that was me again) 1 fall off a bar stool right after the crash award was given at last year's dinner 1 rider, on his motorcycle supporting the team, crashed and got 27 screws and 2 plates in his leg Plus innumerable 'cross crashes and a few MTB falls, none of which count. That's all the ones I remember. The road race accidents this year caused much more damage than the crit crashes, both mechanically and physically. In terms of raw racing, it's tricky. There are far more crit events available locally than road races: two different mid-week training crit series May-August, plus at least four other major criteriums that are open to lower-cat riders. There are major road races about every two or three weeks, plus a 7-race warm-up series in March. My guess is that most riders in our club ride more crit events than road races, and probably spend more racing time in crits than road races, even though the former events are considerably shorter. I might be wrong: the time might be closer than I think, depending on an individual rider and how many non-local events they do. Some of the American stage races are a big draw. Crits have a rep for being more crashy, but I think there's no point in building a special "crash-worthy" bike for them. One rider in our club wrote off his frame in a road event. It's axiomatic that you should not race a bike you can't afford to crash, and that applies to pretty much every form of racing except TTs, where the usual serious crash is getting hit by a car during an open-course event. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos |
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Building a Campy Crashterium Bike
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 04:36:28 GMT, Ryan Cousineau
wrote: That's all the ones I remember. The road race accidents this year caused much more damage than the crit crashes, both mechanically and physically. That's in line with what I've seen over the year. In a criterium, a typical crash is one rider losing control and sliding off the road. Maybe taking another rider or two with him Most everyone is alert and the field is probably strung out, so the crash doesn't have a big impact. Big nasty crashes that crack frames and such are probably more common in road races where the field is together, like down a shallow hill or bend. JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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