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Old February 17th 19, 08:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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It's now faster to cycle than drive in some city centres as Britain’s roads become increasingly gridlocked, a report has found.

London and Edinburgh are the two most congested cities in the UK, with drivers clocking up average speeds of only 7mph during the final mile of their journeys, the global traffic audit has revealed.

It concluded that it has become ‘faster to ride a bike than drive or take the bus’ for millions of motorists in Britain.

It found that last year drivers in six UK cities – London, Edinburgh, Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester and Sheffield – crawled along at an average speed of 10mph or less in the last mile of their journey.

The average cyclist in cities travels at 9.6mph, according to traffic analysts Inrix, which conducted the study.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cle-drive.html
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Old February 19th 19, 11:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 19/02/2019 06:48, soup wrote:
On 18/02/2019 13:52, GB wrote:

Central London is pretty flat, so it's easy to cycle round.


Whereas Edinburgh is the complete opposite, everywhere is uphill from
everywhere else (only a slight hyperbole) .


Well exactly half a hyperbole.
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Old April 3rd 19, 04:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 17/02/2019 20:52, wrote:
QUOTE:
It's now faster to cycle than drive in some city centres as Britain’s roads become increasingly gridlocked, a report has found.

London and Edinburgh are the two most congested cities in the UK, with drivers clocking up average speeds of only 7mph during the final mile of their journeys, the global traffic audit has revealed.

It concluded that it has become ‘faster to ride a bike than drive or take the bus’ for millions of motorists in Britain.

It found that last year drivers in six UK cities – London, Edinburgh, Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester and Sheffield – crawled along at an average speed of 10mph or less in the last mile of their journey.

The average cyclist in cities travels at 9.6mph, according to traffic analysts Inrix, which conducted the study.

ENDS.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cle-drive.html

I have corrected the thread title for you and for the Daily Mail. As
written. it was the usual nonsense.

I am confident that any competent driver in an ordinary car, behaving
completely lawfully, could easily beat you or any other cyclist (on a
bicycle) in a race - at any time of day or night - from one end of the
Liverpool Ring Road* to the other.


[* Approximately 11.3 miles, Millers Bridge / Balliol Road / Breeze
Hill / Queens Drive / Menlove Avenue / Hillfoot Road / Speke Hall Road,
northerly termination at Regent Road, southerly at junction with A561
Speke Boulevard. Almost all dual carriageway, almost all 40 mph limit.]
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Old April 3rd 19, 04:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 18/02/2019 17:53, soup wrote:
On 17/02/2019 20:52, wrote:
QUOTE:
It's now faster to cycle than drive in some city centres as Britain’s
roads become increasingly gridlocked, a report has found.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cle-drive.html



Every other month, for the last good few years, there has been some
contests or other reported where bike, public transport and car are
pitted against each other for a commute; invariably the bike wins...


....over the last, inner-city, bit of the journey.

Where the journey is posited and measured so as to be representative of
normality is something that is never measured - for some reason.
Probably partly to do with the need for headlines, even if they are
deceiving headlines.
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Old April 3rd 19, 10:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 15:54:29 GMT, JNugent wrote:

On 18/02/2019 17:53, soup wrote:
On 17/02/2019 20:52, wrote:
QUOTE:
It's now faster to cycle than drive in some city centres as
Britain’s roads become increasingly gridlocked, a report has
found.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itish-cities-f
aster-cycle-drive.html



Every other month, for the last good few years, there has been some
contests or other reported where bike, public transport and car are
pitted against each other for a commute; invariably the bike wins...


...over the last, inner-city, bit of the journey.

Where the journey is posited and measured so as to be representative
of normality is something that is never measured - for some reason.
Probably partly to do with the need for headlines, even if they are
deceiving headlines.

It might have become "normal" for some people to commute daft distances;
that's another part of the problem.


--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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Old April 3rd 19, 10:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
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On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 15:51:41 GMT, JNugent wrote:

On 17/02/2019 20:52, wrote:
QUOTE:
It's now faster to cycle than drive in some city centres as
Britain’s roads become increasingly gridlocked, a report has found.

London and Edinburgh are the two most congested cities in the UK,
with drivers clocking up average speeds of only 7mph during the final
mile of their journeys, the global traffic audit has revealed.

It concluded that it has become ‘faster to ride a bike than drive
or take the bus’ for millions of motorists in Britain.

It found that last year drivers in six UK cities – London,
Edinburgh, Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester and Sheffield – crawled
along at an average speed of 10mph or less in the last mile of their
journey.

The average cyclist in cities travels at 9.6mph, according to traffic
analysts Inrix, which conducted the study.

ENDS.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tish-cities-fa
ster-cycle-drive.html


I have corrected the thread title for you and for the Daily Mail. As
written. it was the usual nonsense.

I am confident that any competent driver in an ordinary car, behaving
completely lawfully, could easily beat you or any other cyclist (on a
bicycle) in a race - at any time of day or night - from one end of the
Liverpool Ring Road* to the other.


[* Approximately 11.3 miles, Millers Bridge / Balliol Road / Breeze
Hill / Queens Drive / Menlove Avenue / Hillfoot Road / Speke Hall
Road, northerly termination at Regent Road, southerly at junction with
A561 Speke Boulevard. Almost all dual carriageway, almost all 40 mph
limit.]

This appears to be some kind of race. But on dual carriageways. I can't
see it as representative of the madness that is the daily commute into a
city centre.

xpost added.



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Old April 3rd 19, 10:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 10:16:16 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

It might have become "normal" for some people to commute daft distances;
that's another part of the problem.


When I worked at BP I had the longest commute in our lab at 12 miles and was the only one who cycled in. One evening, I got a lift home and it took me 15 minutes longer than my bike ride home and I was told by my driver that this was "normal".

My bike ride took 25-35 minutes depending on the wind (never traffic) and by car, it could be over an hour in the evening.
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Old April 4th 19, 01:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 03/04/2019 22:16, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 15:54:29 GMT, JNugent wrote:

On 18/02/2019 17:53, soup wrote:
On 17/02/2019 20:52, wrote:
QUOTE:
It's now faster to cycle than drive in some city centres as
Britain’s roads become increasingly gridlocked, a report has
found.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itish-cities-f
aster-cycle-drive.html



Every other month, for the last good few years, there has been some
contests or other reported where bike, public transport and car are
pitted against each other for a commute; invariably the bike wins...


...over the last, inner-city, bit of the journey.

Where the journey is posited and measured so as to be representative
of normality is something that is never measured - for some reason.
Probably partly to do with the need for headlines, even if they are
deceiving headlines.

It might have become "normal" for some people to commute daft distances;
that's another part of the problem.


What "problem" would that be?

I remember a commute I had from Lancashire into Liverpool: 12 miles,
including about a mile on local 30mph roads, a mile on NSL A-roads, six
miles on a motorway and four miles on other 30mph roads, about half of
which was dual-carriageway.

No cyclist could have done that quicker than a driver in a quite
ordinary car. In order to allow a cyclist a chance to "win" such a
challenge, an organiser would have had to contrive the last few hundred
yards of the inbound journey only.
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Old April 4th 19, 01:07 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 10:30:57 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 10:16:16 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

It might have become "normal" for some people to commute daft distances;
that's another part of the problem.


When I worked at BP I had the longest commute in our lab at 12 miles and was the only one who cycled in. One evening, I got a lift home and it took me 15 minutes longer than my bike ride home and I was told by my driver that this was "normal".

My bike ride took 25-35 minutes depending on the wind (never traffic) and by car, it could be over an hour in the evening.


Some people think transport is spelled C-A-R.
At the Uni we have a sports centre and some of my colleagues and myself use the facilities.
The difference is I walk the 5 mins to the gym whilst my colleagues spend 10 mins driving + finding a parking space and then walking to the gym.
Some people are either mentally lazy or they think 'successful' people use cars, or chisels, or little dogs.
 




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