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Old May 7th 19, 03:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Good title for a book. Lots of potential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uick-turn.html
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Old May 7th 19, 04:27 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 7:12:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
Good title for a book. Lots of potential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uick-turn.html
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He should have been in position three, but he does get points for the fluorescent vest. Had he attended my advanced skills course, he would have known not to ride straight into a turning fire engine. That is in class number six, if you purchase the deluxe package. Otherwise, it is covered more generally in class number three, chapter four: "Don't Ride Your Bike into Things." See Bicycle Illuminati Rule 7.2(1)(a)(iii): "when riding your bike, do not ride straight into walls, large trucks or other massive objects." Here's the chapter materials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpFC6kfc15s

-- Jay Beattie.


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Old May 7th 19, 05:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/7/2019 7:12 AM, AMuzi wrote:
Good title for a book. Lots of potential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uick-turn.html


Well they're both riding on the wrong side of the road. What's wrong
with people that can't keep right!🙃

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Old May 7th 19, 05:27 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/7/2019 7:12 AM, AMuzi wrote:
Good title for a book. Lots of potential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uick-turn.html


The subject took me back to when I was presented with a photo-copied
manuscript of a book called "Effective Cycling."

I began reading through it and my girlfriend thought she should take me
to the ER as she listened to my screams at some of the stuff that the
author had written. It was like someone collected some of the worst
possible things to do on a bike. I think that the book was eventually
published.

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Old May 7th 19, 06:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
On 5/7/2019 7:12 AM, AMuzi wrote:
Good title for a book. Lots of potential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uick-turn.html


The subject took me back to when I was presented with a photo-copied
manuscript of a book called "Effective Cycling."

I began reading through it and my girlfriend thought she should take me
to the ER as she listened to my screams at some of the stuff that the
author had written. It was like someone collected some of the worst
possible things to do on a bike. I think that the book was eventually
published.


You know dang well that the book was eventually published! It's author is John Forester. Seeing as it's available online as a PDF why not quote us some of those "worst possible things to do on a bike"?

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Old May 7th 19, 07:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/7/2019 11:27 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 7:12:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
Good title for a book. Lots of potential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uick-turn.html
--


He should have been in position three, but he does get points for the fluorescent vest. Had he attended my advanced skills course, he would have known not to ride straight into a turning fire engine. That is in class number six, if you purchase the deluxe package. Otherwise, it is covered more generally in class number three, chapter four: "Don't Ride Your Bike into Things." See Bicycle Illuminati Rule 7.2(1)(a)(iii): "when riding your bike, do not ride straight into walls, large trucks or other massive objects." Here's the chapter materials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpFC6kfc15s


FWIW, that situation is dealt with in detail in the cycling classes I
have taken. How to prevent it from setting up in the first place, how to
watch for it developing, exactly what evasive action to take if it can't
be avoided, etc. Oh, and the classes had actual drills on the relevant
last-second evasive skills, practiced over and over.

No, people do _not_ know those things automatically. Even riders with
years of experience.

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- Frank Krygowski
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Old May 7th 19, 07:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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The cyclist should have stayed stopped at the side of the road because an emergency vehicle with sirens and lights activated was overtaking him.
Around here, emergency vehicles will unpredictably change lanes and drive on the wrong side of the road or make sudden turns into cross streets without signaling. They even drive the wrong way down a one way road. I have also encountered them on multi use trails, doing a good 40+ mph.
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Old May 7th 19, 07:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/7/2019 1:06 PM, Earls61 wrote:
The cyclist should have stayed stopped at the side of the road because an emergency vehicle with sirens and lights activated was overtaking him.
Around here, emergency vehicles will unpredictably change lanes and drive on the wrong side of the road or make sudden turns into cross streets without signaling. They even drive the wrong way down a one way road. I have also encountered them on multi use trails, doing a good 40+ mph.


Uh, those are trained and certified professionals

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Old May 7th 19, 08:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 9:12:13 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
Good title for a book. Lots of potential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uick-turn.html
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


Looks like a sure sign of stupidity. Wherever I am at, when I see a fire engine with its horn blaring and lights flashing, I stop and look at it. Pretty simple. Whether I am driving, riding, walking, or even sitting inside my house watching TV. I would get up and look out the door at the fire engine. Its long established, and known by everyone, you pay attention to fire engines and ambulances and police cars. You stop and get out of the way and let them proceed.
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Old May 7th 19, 10:48 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 11:05:36 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/7/2019 11:27 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 7:12:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
Good title for a book. Lots of potential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uick-turn.html
--


He should have been in position three, but he does get points for the fluorescent vest. Had he attended my advanced skills course, he would have known not to ride straight into a turning fire engine. That is in class number six, if you purchase the deluxe package. Otherwise, it is covered more generally in class number three, chapter four: "Don't Ride Your Bike into Things." See Bicycle Illuminati Rule 7.2(1)(a)(iii): "when riding your bike, do not ride straight into walls, large trucks or other massive objects." Here's the chapter materials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpFC6kfc15s


FWIW, that situation is dealt with in detail in the cycling classes I
have taken. How to prevent it from setting up in the first place, how to
watch for it developing, exactly what evasive action to take if it can't
be avoided, etc. Oh, and the classes had actual drills on the relevant
last-second evasive skills, practiced over and over.

No, people do _not_ know those things automatically. Even riders with
years of experience.


Anyone with even a whiff of intelligence would know not to accelerate into the side of a turning fire truck with its siren blaring and turn signal activated. Look at the complete video from the beginning. The only mystery is "what was he thinking."

If you are teaching or taking cycling classes where the instructor is actually saying, "hey, if a fire truck turns in front of you, don't accelerate into it," then the instructor should also be teaching life skills like how to dress, eat and dial 911.

-- Jay Beattie.



 




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