Needed: 700c tires suggestions

Not just any 700c tire, but one with a looser fit? Folding or wire bead in
a 700x23 or 700x25 configuration would be good. The MA-40 rims combined
with the Conti's, Vredesteins and (especially) the Michelins I've tried on
them to date are going to eat too many tire irons and cause many commuting
headaches when the inevitable flat tires begin occurring. They are
T-I-G-H-T. Your assistance is requested.
TIA,
hr

huffyrider wrote:
Not just any 700c tire, but one with a looser fit? Folding or wire
bead in
a 700x23 or 700x25 configuration would be good. The MA-40 rims
combined
with the Conti's, Vredesteins and (especially) the Michelins I've
tried on
them to date are going to eat too many tire irons and cause many
commuting
headaches when the inevitable flat tires begin occurring. They are
T-I-G-H-T. Your assistance is requested.
TIA,
hr

It's not the tires, it's the rim strip. I suspect you have a thick rim
strip installed- Velox tape or similar. Using plastic rim strips such
as those available from Performance:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5412
will allow the bead of the tire to fall farther into the middle of the
rim, allowing the bead to be pulled off more easily.

I had a heck of a time with MA-40's and Continental tires until I
installed thinner rim strips. After that, piece of cake.

Also, I'd consider 700x25's to be too small for a reliable commuter
bike. I'd use at least a 700x28 if not a 700x32. If you keep them
inflated, you won't gain that much rolling resistance.

Jeff

"JeffWills" wrote in message
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It's not the tires, it's the rim strip. I suspect you have a thick rim
strip installed- Velox tape or similar. Using plastic rim strips such
as those available from Performance:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5412
will allow the bead of the tire to fall farther into the middle of the
rim, allowing the bead to be pulled off more easily.

I had a heck of a time with MA-40's and Continental tires until I
installed thinner rim strips. After that, piece of cake.

Also, I'd consider 700x25's to be too small for a reliable commuter
bike. I'd use at least a 700x28 if not a 700x32. If you keep them
inflated, you won't gain that much rolling resistance.

Jeff

Thanks. I believe you're correct, it's Velox tape. I'll try a thinner
plastic rim strip - good idea. As far as the tires go, a true 700x25 will
be about the max I can fit with this 80's racer rig, heck it won't even have
gears or brakes! My year-round commuter does have 28c tires, fenders,
gears, brakes, etc and really enjoys getting all dressed up.
hr

"huffyrider" wrote in message
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"JeffWills" wrote in message
ups.com...

It's not the tires, it's the rim strip. I suspect you have a thick rim
strip installed- Velox tape or similar. Using plastic rim strips such
as those available from Performance:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5412
will allow the bead of the tire to fall farther into the middle of the
rim, allowing the bead to be pulled off more easily.

I had a heck of a time with MA-40's and Continental tires until I
installed thinner rim strips. After that, piece of cake.

Also, I'd consider 700x25's to be too small for a reliable commuter
bike. I'd use at least a 700x28 if not a 700x32. If you keep them
inflated, you won't gain that much rolling resistance.

Jeff

Thanks. I believe you're correct, it's Velox tape. I'll try a thinner
plastic rim strip - good idea. As far as the tires go, a true 700x25 will
be about the max I can fit with this 80's racer rig, heck it won't even
have gears or brakes! My year-round commuter does have 28c tires,
fenders, gears, brakes, etc and really enjoys getting all dressed up.
hr

Agree, I use a thin velox cotton tape and Avocet Fasgrip 700x25 (formerly
called 700x28) and NEVER have a problem mounting tires.

If you do have problems mounting, get yourself and VAR tire lever, you'll
never regret it!

"bfd" wrote in message
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Agree, I use a thin velox cotton tape and Avocet Fasgrip 700x25 (formerly
called 700x28) and NEVER have a problem mounting tires.

If you do have problems mounting, get yourself and VAR tire lever, you'll
never regret it!
I'm using the cotton Velox on the MA-40's and DO have a problem. Is there a
thinner variety I need to look for? Would the fit offered by the Avocet
Fasgrip 25's be worth a look?

Yes, the VAR levers enabled me to get the tires off - just barely. They're
certainly a can't-do-without item.
hr

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:03:14 +0000, huffyrider wrote:

I'm using the cotton Velox on the MA-40's and DO have a problem. Is there a
thinner variety I need to look for?

I don't think so. There are different widths, but they are all the same
thickness -- and the width you need is determined by the rim. Too-narrow
rim strips caused me a hellish 7-flat ride back when I was first learning
about clincher tires.

Would the
fit offered by the Avocet
Fasgrip 25's be worth a look?

Always been good enough for me to not need levers, and I use mavic rims.
IMO Mavic are better than most.

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"David L. Johnson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:03:14 +0000, huffyrider wrote:

I'm using the cotton Velox on the MA-40's and DO have a problem. Is
there a
thinner variety I need to look for?

I don't think so. There are different widths, but they are all the same
thickness -- and the width you need is determined by the rim. Too-narrow
rim strips caused me a hellish 7-flat ride back when I was first learning
about clincher tires.

Sounds like I'll have to find a thinner (plastic) rim strip. The width of
the cotton Velox appears to be fine in this case.

Would the
fit offered by the Avocet
Fasgrip 25's be worth a look?

Always been good enough for me to not need levers, and I use mavic rims.
IMO Mavic are better than most.

Agreed. I have no problems with my other Mavics rims - both road and
mountain. My MA2's, T217's and Open Pro's all work fine. I'll have to take
a peak at the Avocet Fasgrips tires too. Any excuse to try some different
rubber is OK by me
hr

Sounds like whining to me. I have MA-40's on my commuter with Conti Top
Touring 700x32 with the Velox rim strip. It is a tight fit, but I
haven't had to use levers yet. personally I rarely use levers to change
a flat and this from a guy who does it 10 or more times per day during
the summer.
I personally recommend just toughening up and getting stronger thumbs.

Josh McClure
Durst Cycles
Urbana, IL

"Huffyrider" wrote:

As far as the tires go, a true 700x25 will
be about the max I can fit with this 80's racer rig, heck it won't
even have
gears or brakes!

Or a brain! --TP

Josh McClure wrote:
Sounds like whining to me. I have MA-40's on my commuter with Conti
Top
Touring 700x32 with the Velox rim strip. It is a tight fit, but I
haven't had to use levers yet. personally I rarely use levers to
change
a flat and this from a guy who does it 10 or more times per day
during
the summer.
I personally recommend just toughening up and getting stronger
thumbs.

Josh McClure
Durst Cycles
Urbana, IL

What a dick. The guy just came here looking for help.