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Old October 18th 19, 10:27 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:42:00 +0700, John B. wrote:


By the way, "Thai Tea" is a made-up word, there is no such thing in
Thailand :-)


I wondered. Whilst we usually have green tea (chinese tea) when we have
Thai food, theryoften make it clear that drinking tea is not a thai thing.

It is bit like "sweet and sour pork" is thought of as chinese here, by
europeans at the reginal/country chinese restaurants, but the real in the
city restaurants do not serve it as it isn't chinese. something just
concocted for westerners.


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Old October 18th 19, 11:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:22:08 -0000 (UTC), news18
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:42:44 +0700, John B. wrote:

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:32:26 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:49:22 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/17/2019 8:39 PM, jbeattie wrote:


I had pad kee mao from the Thai cart today. It was super-good, and I
get free Thai tea because I work downtown. It's really too sweet, but
the lady in the cart is willing to ratchet back the sugar and make it
just right. Have you ever heard of pad kee mao?

I probably eat more Thai food than John B, but tomorrow, I'm going to
the Korean BBQ cart next door. Or maybe I'll get a sandwich.

And I've been wondering about getting geared tuning pegs on my fiddle.
Since I use D'Addario Helicore strings, I need the fine tuning
capability. I've been using traditional fine tuners in the tailpiece,
but the geared pegs may be nicer.

(It's fun to jump on the Non Sequitur train!)

Knilling make some very nice 4 :: 1 tuners that look much like the
original tuning pegs and their advert says:
"Terrific for older players with arthritis or weakened grip".


And even more :-)

The Australian press is raving mad because it appears that something
like 4,000 retired race horses are being slaughtered annually, largely
for meat.


But horses are cute and mostly humans don' eat horse in Australia. It
apparently all gets exported to Europe.

The bruha is the racing and pacing industry says that 1% are knackeed/
slaughtered, but 4,000 p.a. is about 50% of the annual production of
yearlings.

I read that in 2008 there were 11,442 2 year olds that actually
started. The North American foal crop was 38,034 in 2006. So about 30%
of the foals born, in 2006, actually raced while 70% obviously did
not. I assume that some were injured but I suspect that a large number
were culled as not being worth training.

I don't know the Australian figures but I suspect that they would be
similar to the N. American figures. If 70% of the crop is a failure
what are you going to do with them?


At the same time there 7.8 million cattle and sheep being slaughtered
annually. AND, some 403,000 of the slaughtered cattle are females.

Cattle saughter numbers are high atm because of long term drought and por
farmers finally culling stock after wasting $$$ buying expensive hay to
keep them alive. Then crying porr me to every sucker, govco included.

The concern over the number/high ercentage of female slaughter is that is
is cutting into breeding stock for future production. Domestic meat
prices are not going to drop for a long long time.


Think of it, almost 2,000 times as many cattle and sheep doomed to death
and not a single voice raised. Oh! The Shame!


You've left ot al those vege, four per meal, that also get "slaughtered".
Munch, munch.


Which, if you are living in Australia are probably imported from
China. Or at least when I visited W. Australia some years ago I was
told that veggies could be imported from China cheaper than they could
be raised locally :-)
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cheers,

John B.

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Old October 18th 19, 11:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:27:55 -0000 (UTC), news18
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:42:00 +0700, John B. wrote:


By the way, "Thai Tea" is a made-up word, there is no such thing in
Thailand :-)


I wondered. Whilst we usually have green tea (chinese tea) when we have
Thai food, theryoften make it clear that drinking tea is not a thai thing.

If you have a look in the Super Market here you will see that the
shelves holding coffee are about twice as long as those holding tea
:-)
It is bit like "sweet and sour pork" is thought of as chinese here, by
europeans at the reginal/country chinese restaurants, but the real in the
city restaurants do not serve it as it isn't chinese. something just
concocted for westerners.


The Thai population is made up of approximately 14% ethnic Chinese and
a very large percent of the population are mixed blood as is my wife
who's father came from China. As a result Chinese, or partially
Chinese, recipes are common. Usually Chinese with added chilies :-)

I believe that you are wrong about sweet and sour as I'm sure that
Sweet and Sour Pork is a Cantonese dish, or at least I've eaten it in
Hong Kong and certainly sweet and sour sauce is sold in Chinese food
shops and certainly sweet and sour "stuff" is cooked all over China.
sweet and sour pork from Canton, Heilongjiang Province sweet and sour
chicken, Jiangsu province sweet and sour Mandarin fish, Shanghai
sweet and sour spare ribs, etc.
--
cheers,

John B.

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Old October 18th 19, 02:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, October 18, 2019 at 8:27:32 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 18.10.2019 um 01:21 schrieb Tom Kunich:
I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road".


If the sidewalk if that dangerous why do you suppose the law says that anyone 13 and younger can ride on the sidewalk?


Actually, it doesn't. German lay says anybody under the age of 8 must
use the sidewalk, children under the age of 10 and parents accompanying
children under the age of 8 may use the sidewalk.
Anybody using the sidewalk must dismount at each junction and cross the
road as a pedestrian.

Ensuring cyclists on sidewalks never have priority over others minimizes
the collisions between cyclists and turning vehicles because turning
vehicles can't violate the cyclists' priority ;-)


Sounds like a sensible law to me. I wouldn't want children under 8 or even 10 on the road if I were still a motorist.

Andre Jute
Car-free since 1992 -- I practice what I preach
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Old October 18th 19, 02:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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jbeattie writes:

On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 4:35:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 9:53:33 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:32:53 AM UTC-7, duane wrote:
On 17/10/2019 10:24 a.m., Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:49:01 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote:

The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when
it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding
on the road ;-)

I generally agree. But it strikes me that someone who rides on
the pavement all the time, or any time it is permitted, is
probably also a gutter bunny, and that truck driver would have
collected him either way.

I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that
riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the
road".


Seems to me that this would depend a lot on the road and the sidewalk.
We had a couple people killed in Montreal going through an underpass and
being rear ended by trucks. You'd have to see the setup. Steep
underpass. Dark. Narrow. Truck didn't see the cyclists etc. There
are sidewalks there and the city decided to allow cyclists to use them.

Before the danger danger brigade gets fired up, this is a one off. I
wouldn't recommend using sidewalks generally.

Andre Jute
Aggressive Passive Safety: Bicyclists should avoid tangling
with mechanical contrivances bigger than they are.


And oddly, modified sidewalks are deemed the safest type of
bicycle
facility. https://bikeportland.org/2017/02/14/...lwaukie-217696
The previous on-street bike lane was far safer. You didn't get
cars lunging over limit lines into "bike crossings," i.e. cross
walks, and you didn't have to stop every fifty yards or less for
cross-streets and driveways. You just rode along with the cars --
straight shot. But now we have an awesome facility where you get
to dodge cars and pedestrians. Oh joy. I'd go on about the
f****** nightmare ride into work this morning in a bike facility,
but I've got things to do. I'm turning into that crazy old
Tourette's guy yelling at cars, bikes and pedestrians. One day
I'll wake up and be TK -- or a cockroach, one or the other.

-- Jay Beattie.


I just got an email this time from some back-east recruiter and
another from LinkIn about that NASA position. They said it is newly
started "Small Satellite Maintenance" department. Since they sure as
hell aren't bringing them down and repairing them I can only assume
that it is firmware updates. So, since you're the local expert -
have you heard of the Small Satellite Maintenance Department of
NASA?


I had pad kee mao from the Thai cart today. It was super-good, and I
get free Thai tea because I work downtown. It's really too sweet, but
the lady in the cart is willing to ratchet back the sugar and make it
just right. Have you ever heard of pad kee mao?

I probably eat more Thai food than John B, but tomorrow, I'm going to
the Korean BBQ cart next door. Or maybe I'll get a sandwich.


Go for the banh mi, Charlie makes a mean sandwich.
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Old October 18th 19, 03:24 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, October 18, 2019 at 6:51:29 AM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote:
jbeattie writes:

On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 4:35:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 9:53:33 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:32:53 AM UTC-7, duane wrote:
On 17/10/2019 10:24 a.m., Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:49:01 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote:

The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when
it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding
on the road ;-)

I generally agree. But it strikes me that someone who rides on
the pavement all the time, or any time it is permitted, is
probably also a gutter bunny, and that truck driver would have
collected him either way.

I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that
riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the
road".


Seems to me that this would depend a lot on the road and the sidewalk.
We had a couple people killed in Montreal going through an underpass and
being rear ended by trucks. You'd have to see the setup. Steep
underpass. Dark. Narrow. Truck didn't see the cyclists etc. There
are sidewalks there and the city decided to allow cyclists to use them.

Before the danger danger brigade gets fired up, this is a one off. I
wouldn't recommend using sidewalks generally.

Andre Jute
Aggressive Passive Safety: Bicyclists should avoid tangling
with mechanical contrivances bigger than they are.


And oddly, modified sidewalks are deemed the safest type of
bicycle
facility. https://bikeportland.org/2017/02/14/...lwaukie-217696
The previous on-street bike lane was far safer. You didn't get
cars lunging over limit lines into "bike crossings," i.e. cross
walks, and you didn't have to stop every fifty yards or less for
cross-streets and driveways. You just rode along with the cars --
straight shot. But now we have an awesome facility where you get
to dodge cars and pedestrians. Oh joy. I'd go on about the
f****** nightmare ride into work this morning in a bike facility,
but I've got things to do. I'm turning into that crazy old
Tourette's guy yelling at cars, bikes and pedestrians. One day
I'll wake up and be TK -- or a cockroach, one or the other.

-- Jay Beattie.

I just got an email this time from some back-east recruiter and
another from LinkIn about that NASA position. They said it is newly
started "Small Satellite Maintenance" department. Since they sure as
hell aren't bringing them down and repairing them I can only assume
that it is firmware updates. So, since you're the local expert -
have you heard of the Small Satellite Maintenance Department of
NASA?


I had pad kee mao from the Thai cart today. It was super-good, and I
get free Thai tea because I work downtown. It's really too sweet, but
the lady in the cart is willing to ratchet back the sugar and make it
just right. Have you ever heard of pad kee mao?

I probably eat more Thai food than John B, but tomorrow, I'm going to
the Korean BBQ cart next door. Or maybe I'll get a sandwich.


Go for the banh mi, Charlie makes a mean sandwich.


We have banh mi carts downtown -- I just have to find them. A bunch of the carts dispersed after a cart pod was displaced by a luxury hotel project. That really ****ed off the locals. We also lost the "Frying Scotsman" -- great street fish and chips. He moved his truck to Beaverton -- gads, the burbs. I live pretty close to a high school with a little cart pod: more pad kee mao! https://tinyurl.com/yxv594rp The Thai people are trying to conquer us with noodle dishes. Its some sort of reverse colonialism. We need to fight back with Colonel Sanders franchises in Bangkok. John B, its up to you!

-- Jay Beattie.

-- Jay Beattie
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Old October 18th 19, 03:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 5:39:44 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 4:35:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 9:53:33 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:32:53 AM UTC-7, duane wrote:
On 17/10/2019 10:24 a.m., Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:49:01 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote:

The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when
it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding
on the road ;-)

I generally agree. But it strikes me that someone who rides on the pavement all the time, or any time it is permitted, is probably also a gutter bunny, and that truck driver would have collected him either way.

I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road".


Seems to me that this would depend a lot on the road and the sidewalk.
We had a couple people killed in Montreal going through an underpass and
being rear ended by trucks. You'd have to see the setup. Steep
underpass. Dark. Narrow. Truck didn't see the cyclists etc. There
are sidewalks there and the city decided to allow cyclists to use them.

Before the danger danger brigade gets fired up, this is a one off. I
wouldn't recommend using sidewalks generally.

Andre Jute
Aggressive Passive Safety: Bicyclists should avoid tangling with mechanical contrivances bigger than they are.


And oddly, modified sidewalks are deemed the safest type of bicycle facility. https://bikeportland.org/2017/02/14/...lwaukie-217696 The previous on-street bike lane was far safer. You didn't get cars lunging over limit lines into "bike crossings," i.e. cross walks, and you didn't have to stop every fifty yards or less for cross-streets and driveways. You just rode along with the cars -- straight shot. But now we have an awesome facility where you get to dodge cars and pedestrians. Oh joy. I'd go on about the f****** nightmare ride into work this morning in a bike facility, but I've got things to do.. I'm turning into that crazy old Tourette's guy yelling at cars, bikes and pedestrians. One day I'll wake up and be TK -- or a cockroach, one or the other.

-- Jay Beattie.


I just got an email this time from some back-east recruiter and another from LinkIn about that NASA position. They said it is newly started "Small Satellite Maintenance" department. Since they sure as hell aren't bringing them down and repairing them I can only assume that it is firmware updates.. So, since you're the local expert - have you heard of the Small Satellite Maintenance Department of NASA?


I had pad kee mao from the Thai cart today. It was super-good, and I get free Thai tea because I work downtown. It's really too sweet, but the lady in the cart is willing to ratchet back the sugar and make it just right. Have you ever heard of pad kee mao?

I probably eat more Thai food than John B, but tomorrow, I'm going to the Korean BBQ cart next door. Or maybe I'll get a sandwich.

-- Jay Beattie.


So in your lawyerly way you're saying that you never heard of that department. Interesting since you thought that if "nobody" had ever heard of it, it didn't exist.
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Old October 18th 19, 03:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 10/18/2019 9:24 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2019 at 6:51:29 AM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote:
jbeattie writes:

On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 4:35:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 9:53:33 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:32:53 AM UTC-7, duane wrote:
On 17/10/2019 10:24 a.m., Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:49:01 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote:

The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when
it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding
on the road ;-)

I generally agree. But it strikes me that someone who rides on
the pavement all the time, or any time it is permitted, is
probably also a gutter bunny, and that truck driver would have
collected him either way.

I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that
riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the
road".


Seems to me that this would depend a lot on the road and the sidewalk.
We had a couple people killed in Montreal going through an underpass and
being rear ended by trucks. You'd have to see the setup. Steep
underpass. Dark. Narrow. Truck didn't see the cyclists etc. There
are sidewalks there and the city decided to allow cyclists to use them.

Before the danger danger brigade gets fired up, this is a one off. I
wouldn't recommend using sidewalks generally.

Andre Jute
Aggressive Passive Safety: Bicyclists should avoid tangling
with mechanical contrivances bigger than they are.


And oddly, modified sidewalks are deemed the safest type of
bicycle
facility. https://bikeportland.org/2017/02/14/...lwaukie-217696
The previous on-street bike lane was far safer. You didn't get
cars lunging over limit lines into "bike crossings," i.e. cross
walks, and you didn't have to stop every fifty yards or less for
cross-streets and driveways. You just rode along with the cars --
straight shot. But now we have an awesome facility where you get
to dodge cars and pedestrians. Oh joy. I'd go on about the
f****** nightmare ride into work this morning in a bike facility,
but I've got things to do. I'm turning into that crazy old
Tourette's guy yelling at cars, bikes and pedestrians. One day
I'll wake up and be TK -- or a cockroach, one or the other.

-- Jay Beattie.

I just got an email this time from some back-east recruiter and
another from LinkIn about that NASA position. They said it is newly
started "Small Satellite Maintenance" department. Since they sure as
hell aren't bringing them down and repairing them I can only assume
that it is firmware updates. So, since you're the local expert -
have you heard of the Small Satellite Maintenance Department of
NASA?

I had pad kee mao from the Thai cart today. It was super-good, and I
get free Thai tea because I work downtown. It's really too sweet, but
the lady in the cart is willing to ratchet back the sugar and make it
just right. Have you ever heard of pad kee mao?

I probably eat more Thai food than John B, but tomorrow, I'm going to
the Korean BBQ cart next door. Or maybe I'll get a sandwich.


Go for the banh mi, Charlie makes a mean sandwich.


We have banh mi carts downtown -- I just have to find them. A bunch of the carts dispersed after a cart pod was displaced by a luxury hotel project. That really ****ed off the locals. We also lost the "Frying Scotsman" -- great street fish and chips. He moved his truck to Beaverton -- gads, the burbs. I live pretty close to a high school with a little cart pod: more pad kee mao! https://tinyurl.com/yxv594rp The Thai people are trying to conquer us with noodle dishes. Its some sort of reverse colonialism. We need to fight back with Colonel Sanders franchises in Bangkok. John B, its up to you!

-- Jay Beattie.

-- Jay Beattie


O ye of little faith. Wherever a nickel is left on the
table, USA businesses will appear:

https://www.kfc.co.th/store-selection

From an online review, "...For a super cheap price (I think
around 40 baht), I got a plate of fried chicken with green
curry and rice. It was extremely filling and delicious. You
cannot find this kind of price in North American KFC's (or
any fast food chains!) The curry was spicy and flavourful,
and the grains of rice were soft and chewy, just perfect..."

But then again, another reviewer wrote, "Why do backpackers
eat this crap when Bangkok is packed out with fantastic food
at dirt cheap prices. Dont go - it only encourages them. Eat
at Thanon Yaowarat nightime at the streetside, or else in
one of the seafood places along Soi."



--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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Old October 18th 19, 03:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, October 18, 2019 at 12:27:32 AM UTC-7, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 18.10.2019 um 01:21 schrieb Tom Kunich:
I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road".


If the sidewalk if that dangerous why do you suppose the law says that anyone 13 and younger can ride on the sidewalk?


Actually, it doesn't. German lay says anybody under the age of 8 must
use the sidewalk, children under the age of 10 and parents accompanying
children under the age of 8 may use the sidewalk.
Anybody using the sidewalk must dismount at each junction and cross the
road as a pedestrian.

Ensuring cyclists on sidewalks never have priority over others minimizes
the collisions between cyclists and turning vehicles because turning
vehicles can't violate the cyclists' priority ;-)


Here it is 13. And dismounting to cross a street is pretty much universally ignored. But that wasn't the case in that video - that was a truck driver crossing a sidewalk from a driveway exit from a gas station. Something entirely different and one in which any and all sidewalk users have right-of-way. The real kicker was the Truck ignored the accident making it a hit and run unless he pulled over immediately.
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Old October 18th 19, 04:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 10/18/2019 10:54 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2019 at 12:27:32 AM UTC-7, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 18.10.2019 um 01:21 schrieb Tom Kunich:
I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road".

If the sidewalk if that dangerous why do you suppose the law says that anyone 13 and younger can ride on the sidewalk?


Actually, it doesn't. German lay says anybody under the age of 8 must
use the sidewalk, children under the age of 10 and parents accompanying
children under the age of 8 may use the sidewalk.
Anybody using the sidewalk must dismount at each junction and cross the
road as a pedestrian.

Ensuring cyclists on sidewalks never have priority over others minimizes
the collisions between cyclists and turning vehicles because turning
vehicles can't violate the cyclists' priority ;-)


Here it is 13. And dismounting to cross a street is pretty much universally ignored. But that wasn't the case in that video - that was a truck driver crossing a sidewalk from a driveway exit from a gas station. Something entirely different and one in which any and all sidewalk users have right-of-way. The real kicker was the Truck ignored the accident making it a hit and run unless he pulled over immediately.


FWIW, other sources said the trucker never saw the cyclist and didn't
realize he'd hit anyone. When others stopped him, he didn't flee. He
stayed and cooperated.

I think it's entirely possible his story is true. See
https://grist.org/living/this-video-...low-your-mind/

and
http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/...-about-trucks/

Riding on sidewalks is, on average, much more dangerous than riding on
streets. Riding contra-flow on sidewalks is even more dangerous. That
doesn't mean that nobody should ever ride on a sidewalk. But it means
one needs to be very aware of the hazards.

And one needs to be very aware of the blind spots of large vehicles.


--
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