Trek/Bontrager Wavecell Technology Helmets

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your head than normal foam.

I wonder if this is advertising BS or an actual improvement of the cell shape design. Since they are manufactured using a 3-D printing technology it is very simple for them to make improvements to the design.

At 28 times the protection I wouldn't have had a concussion in the first place so it is actually something to think about. I am paying about $400 a month for medication and in a constant worry that I will grow used to the medication and its effectiveness will fail. I already discovered that if I take these Saw Palmetto pills for enlarged prostate that it makes you pass the medication out more rapidly that you're supposed to and I start having micro-seizures.

I can't take any larger doses so that is always a problem.

I absolutely do not believe that a helmet can save your life and we've discussed this many times before. But I do believe that it can make the life you wouldn't have lost more livable.

On 8/2/2019 6:21 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your head than normal foam.

I wonder if this is advertising BS or an actual improvement of the cell shape design. Since they are manufactured using a 3-D printing technology it is very simple for them to make improvements to the design.

At 28 times the protection I wouldn't have had a concussion in the first place so it is actually something to think about. I am paying about $400 a month for medication and in a constant worry that I will grow used to the medication and its effectiveness will fail. I already discovered that if I take these Saw Palmetto pills for enlarged prostate that it makes you pass the medication out more rapidly that you're supposed to and I start having micro-seizures.

I can't take any larger doses so that is always a problem.

I absolutely do not believe that a helmet can save your life and we've discussed this many times before. But I do believe that it can make the life you wouldn't have lost more livable.

Perhaps, for certain values of "can."

Maybe we'll someday see if the Wavecell makes a difference. In that
case, perhaps they can sell it to those that actually has the largest
number of TBI injuries. That surely does not include bicyclists, despite
all the dishonest hype. Ask any honest ER doctor or TBI specialist.

In any case, it's pretty clear conventional bike helmets aren't working.
Cyclist concussions have soared since bike helmets became popular - just
the opposite of what was promised.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 15:21:48 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the
latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your
head than normal foam.

The question to ask yourself is "where is the point of failure now".

When mushroom style bicycle helmets, aka bell, first came out, there was
a nasty rise in a spine based injury of a rather severe and fatal type.

On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 15:21:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your head than normal foam.

I wonder if this is advertising BS or an actual improvement of the cell shape design. Since they are manufactured using a 3-D printing technology it is very simple for them to make improvements to the design.

At 28 times the protection I wouldn't have had a concussion in the first place so it is actually something to think about. I am paying about $400 a month for medication and in a constant worry that I will grow used to the medication and its effectiveness will fail. I already discovered that if I take these Saw Palmetto pills for enlarged prostate that it makes you pass the medication out more rapidly that you're supposed to and I start having micro-seizures.

I can't take any larger doses so that is always a problem.

I absolutely do not believe that a helmet can save your life and we've discussed this many times before. But I do believe that it can make the life you wouldn't have lost more livable.

Well, if we assume that no helmet equates to zero protection and a
helmet provided 28 times that protection that the formula would be 28
X 0 = ? Would it not?
--
cheers,

John B.

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:49:39 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 15:21:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your head than normal foam.

I wonder if this is advertising BS or an actual improvement of the cell shape design. Since they are manufactured using a 3-D printing technology it is very simple for them to make improvements to the design.

At 28 times the protection I wouldn't have had a concussion in the first place so it is actually something to think about. I am paying about $400 a month for medication and in a constant worry that I will grow used to the medication and its effectiveness will fail. I already discovered that if I take these Saw Palmetto pills for enlarged prostate that it makes you pass the medication out more rapidly that you're supposed to and I start having micro-seizures.

I can't take any larger doses so that is always a problem.

I absolutely do not believe that a helmet can save your life and we've discussed this many times before. But I do believe that it can make the life you wouldn't have lost more livable.

Well, if we assume that no helmet equates to zero protection and a
helmet provided 28 times that protection that the formula would be 28
X 0 = ? Would it not?
--
cheers,

John B.

I read somewhere recently that helmet impacts are ONLY tested on the top of the head in the drop test and that helmets are NOT tested for side impacts that is impacts that hit the side of the helmet. I had a helmet that fell off the handlebar of my STOPPED bicycle and a large chunk broke off the side of that helmet. Helmets can help in some cases but the standards helmets have to pass are abysmally low.

Cheers

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:23:28 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 15:21:48 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the
latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your
head than normal foam.

The question to ask yourself is "where is the point of failure now".

When mushroom style bicycle helmets, aka bell, first came out, there was
a nasty rise in a spine based injury of a rather severe and fatal type.

There was? I know the Bell Biker was directly linked to social isolation and reduction in sexual activity, but I wasn't aware that it was causing severe and fatal spinal injuries. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/...4bellbiker.jpg

-- Jay Beattie.

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:49:39 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 15:21:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your head than normal foam.

I wonder if this is advertising BS or an actual improvement of the cell shape design. Since they are manufactured using a 3-D printing technology it is very simple for them to make improvements to the design.

At 28 times the protection I wouldn't have had a concussion in the first place so it is actually something to think about. I am paying about $400 a month for medication and in a constant worry that I will grow used to the medication and its effectiveness will fail. I already discovered that if I take these Saw Palmetto pills for enlarged prostate that it makes you pass the medication out more rapidly that you're supposed to and I start having micro-seizures.

I can't take any larger doses so that is always a problem.

I absolutely do not believe that a helmet can save your life and we've discussed this many times before. But I do believe that it can make the life you wouldn't have lost more livable.

Well, if we assume that no helmet equates to zero protection and a
helmet provided 28 times that protection that the formula would be 28
X 0 = ? Would it not?
--
cheers,

John B.

No. Because you stated that "no helmet equates to zero protection" which means all helmets have some protection.

Or did you mean that not wearing a helmet has zero protection?

Cheers

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 9:14:27 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:23:28 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 15:21:48 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the
latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your
head than normal foam.

The question to ask yourself is "where is the point of failure now".

When mushroom style bicycle helmets, aka bell, first came out, there was
a nasty rise in a spine based injury of a rather severe and fatal type.

There was? I know the Bell Biker was directly linked to social isolation and reduction in sexual activity, but I wasn't aware that it was causing severe and fatal spinal injuries. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/...4bellbiker.jpg

-- Jay Beattie.

Wasn't that also known as the Bell Tourlite?

Cheers

On 8/2/2019 8:19 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 9:14:27 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:23:28 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 15:21:48 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the
latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your
head than normal foam.

The question to ask yourself is "where is the point of failure now".

When mushroom style bicycle helmets, aka bell, first came out, there was
a nasty rise in a spine based injury of a rather severe and fatal type.

There was? I know the Bell Biker was directly linked to social isolation and reduction in sexual activity, but I wasn't aware that it was causing severe and fatal spinal injuries. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/...4bellbiker.jpg

-- Jay Beattie.

Wasn't that also known as the Bell Tourlite?

Cheers


Biker preceded Tourlite.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 9:35:16 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/2/2019 8:19 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 9:14:27 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:23:28 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 15:21:48 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

I just got an advertisement from Trek in which they now claim that the
latest Wavecell has not 28 times but 48 times the protection for your
head than normal foam.

The question to ask yourself is "where is the point of failure now".

When mushroom style bicycle helmets, aka bell, first came out, there was
a nasty rise in a spine based injury of a rather severe and fatal type.

There was? I know the Bell Biker was directly linked to social isolation and reduction in sexual activity, but I wasn't aware that it was causing severe and fatal spinal injuries. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/...4bellbiker.jpg

-- Jay Beattie.

Wasn't that also known as the Bell Tourlite?

Cheers


Biker preceded Tourlite.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Was there much difference between them?

Cheers