Who is to blame Cyclist or Taxi Driver? ( I dont like either)

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:15:58 +0000, Nick wrote:


Additionally having just had another cyclist pass on the left the taxi
driver should have been doubly alert.

So he has seen one cyclist riding dangerously, so he should assume another will
be along shortly to carry out the same manoeuvre?

If he did that he would have no time to do anything else.

On 27/11/2015 14:36, Judith wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:15:58 +0000, Nick wrote:


Additionally having just had another cyclist pass on the left the taxi
driver should have been doubly alert.

So he has seen one cyclist riding dangerously, so he should assume another will
be along shortly to carry out the same manoeuvre?

He should realise his original mistake in not checking properly, stop
and check his mirrors before continuing.

The only thing I'm not sure of is if he had enough time to react to the
first cyclist.


If he did that he would have no time to do anything else.


If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really shouldn't be
driving at all.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:09:41 +0000, Nick wrote:

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If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really shouldn't be
driving at all.


He has taken a test and passed it.

Has the cyclist do you know?

Judith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:09:41 +0000, Nick
wrote:

snip


If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really
shouldn't be driving at all.


He has taken a test and passed it.

Has the cyclist do you know?

I got 100% and I would not be seen dead on a pedal bike. It's all to do with
not looking like a bellend.
I bet that many of the cyclists here would not get 100%
But of course they would never admit it.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ycling-7315073

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 19:46:52 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Judith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:09:41 +0000, Nick
wrote:

snip


If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really
shouldn't be driving at all.


He has taken a test and passed it.

Has the cyclist do you know?

I got 100% and I would not be seen dead on a pedal bike. It's all to do with
not looking like a bellend.
I bet that many of the cyclists here would not get 100%
But of course they would never admit it.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ycling-7315073



I think that one about when can you cycle through a red-traffic light is
incorrect.

I'm sure that I have been told differently in here.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 19:46:52 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Judith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:09:41 +0000, Nick
wrote:

snip


If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really
shouldn't be driving at all.


He has taken a test and passed it.

Has the cyclist do you know?

I got 100% and I would not be seen dead on a pedal bike. It's all to do with
not looking like a bellend.
I bet that many of the cyclists here would not get 100%
But of course they would never admit it.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ycling-7315073



I bet Mason got 110% and Crispin 105%.

On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 2:52:49 PM UTC, Judith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 19:46:52 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Judith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:09:41 +0000, Nick
wrote:

snip


If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really
shouldn't be driving at all.


He has taken a test and passed it.

Has the cyclist do you know?

I got 100% and I would not be seen dead on a pedal bike. It's all to do with
not looking like a bellend.
I bet that many of the cyclists here would not get 100%
But of course they would never admit it.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ycling-7315073



I bet Mason got 110% and Crispin 105%.

92.3%

On 27/11/2015 19:10, Judith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:09:41 +0000, Nick wrote:

snip


If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really shouldn't be
driving at all.


He has taken a test and passed it.

Has the cyclist do you know?


There is a common theme in these threads where people suggest that the
same rules should be applied to motor vehicles and bicycles. Clearly
they are different. Hence different rules are required. This suggestion
is similar to arguing that a domestic roof top solar power generator
should be subjected to all the same rules and checks as a nuclear power
station.

"With great power comes great responsibility."

FWIW I don't even know if I have passed a cycling test. I remember the
cycling proficiency lessons but not the result.

On 28/11/2015 12:01, Nick wrote:
On 27/11/2015 19:10, Judith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:09:41 +0000, Nick wrote:

snip


If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really shouldn't be
driving at all.


He has taken a test and passed it.

Has the cyclist do you know?


There is a common theme in these threads where people suggest that the
same rules should be applied to motor vehicles and bicycles. Clearly
they are different. Hence different rules are required.


The rules of the road do apply, and should be applied to all road users,
irrespective of the power, weight or speed of their vehicles. As much
of road policing is now done remotely by camera, it is now appropriate
that all vehicles are traceable through a number plate.

In uk.rec.cycling Mrcheerful wrote:
On 28/11/2015 12:01, Nick wrote:
On 27/11/2015 19:10, Judith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:09:41 +0000, Nick wrote:

If he can't signal properly and check his mirrors he really shouldn't
be driving at all.

He has taken a test and passed it.

Has the cyclist do you know?

There is a common theme in these threads where people suggest that the
same rules should be applied to motor vehicles and bicycles. Clearly
they are different. Hence different rules are required.

The rules of the road do apply, and should be applied to all road users,
irrespective of the power, weight or speed of their vehicles.

I wonder, then why car drivers pass their tests at the age of 17 and get to
drive until they're seventy, without any more checks. Bus and lorry
drivers, on the other hand, can't pass their test until they're 18 for
lorries, 24 for bus drivers, have to take 35 hours of training every five
years, have to sit a further test at the age of 45 and then be medically
tested every five years thereafter (every year once they reach 65).

Can you guess, you stupid ****? Would you like to take a guess, you stupid
****?

That's right, you stupid ****.. it's because a lorry has far greater
potential for harm due to its mass (and thus, its kinetic energy). And bus
drivers transport passengers whom they could seriously injure or kill.

You still think that all road users should be subject to the same rules,
despite the fact that some have far greater potential for harm?

You stupid ****.

As much of road policing is now done remotely by camera, it is now
appropriate that all vehicles are traceable through a number plate.

Only if pedestrians also get forced to wear hi-viz, have compulsory
insurance, and have to wear a number on the back of the hi-viz.

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