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Old July 29th 10, 06:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Old July 29th 10, 07:13 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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webreader wrote:

http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...owtopic=109959


An interesting police officer discussion board.

One or two posters here might like to post #5, which (correctly) makes the point:

"... cycling on a pavement isnt an offence, cycling on a footway is, might be
usefull to know if your issuing tickets for it ?".
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Old July 29th 10, 08:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 29 July, 19:13, JNugent wrote:
webreader wrote:
http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...owtopic=109959


An interesting police officer discussion board.

One or two posters here might like to post #5, which (correctly) makes the point:

"... cycling on a pavement isnt an offence, cycling on a footway is, might be
usefull to know if your issuing tickets for it ?".


"the foot way is the metre next to the road, pedestrian areas more
than a metre from the road are not foot ways and cycling is not
prohibited unless there is a bylaw"

Is he saying what I think he's saying?
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Old July 29th 10, 08:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Squashme wrote:
On 29 July, 19:13, JNugent wrote:
webreader wrote:
http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...owtopic=109959

An interesting police officer discussion board.

One or two posters here might like to post #5, which (correctly) makes the point:

"... cycling on a pavement isnt an offence, cycling on a footway is, might be
usefull to know if your issuing tickets for it ?".


"the foot way is the metre next to the road, pedestrian areas more
than a metre from the road are not foot ways and cycling is not
prohibited unless there is a bylaw"

Is he saying what I think he's saying?


Is there a UK definition of a footway which involves the expression "one metre"?

I wouldn't have thought so.
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Old July 29th 10, 10:28 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:21:42 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

Squashme wrote:
On 29 July, 19:13, JNugent wrote:
webreader wrote:
http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...owtopic=109959
An interesting police officer discussion board.

One or two posters here might like to post #5, which (correctly) makes the point:

"... cycling on a pavement isnt an offence, cycling on a footway is, might be
usefull to know if your issuing tickets for it ?".


"the foot way is the metre next to the road, pedestrian areas more
than a metre from the road are not foot ways and cycling is not
prohibited unless there is a bylaw"

Is he saying what I think he's saying?


Is there a UK definition of a footway which involves the expression "one metre"?

I wouldn't have thought so.


A yard is more likely.
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Old July 29th 10, 10:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Tom Crispin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:21:42 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

Squashme wrote:
On 29 July, 19:13, JNugent wrote:
webreader wrote:
http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...owtopic=109959
An interesting police officer discussion board.

One or two posters here might like to post #5, which (correctly) makes the point:

"... cycling on a pavement isnt an offence, cycling on a footway is, might be
usefull to know if your issuing tickets for it ?".
"the foot way is the metre next to the road, pedestrian areas more
than a metre from the road are not foot ways and cycling is not
prohibited unless there is a bylaw"

Is he saying what I think he's saying?

Is there a UK definition of a footway which involves the expression "one metre"?

I wouldn't have thought so.


A yard is more likely.


Well, less unlikely.
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Old July 29th 10, 11:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 29/07/2010 20:15, Squashme wrote:
On 29 July, 19:13, wrote:
webreader wrote:
http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...owtopic=109959


An interesting police officer discussion board.

One or two posters here might like to post #5, which (correctly) makes the point:

"... cycling on a pavement isnt an offence, cycling on a footway is, might be
usefull to know if your issuing tickets for it ?".


"the foot way is the metre next to the road, pedestrian areas more
than a metre from the road are not foot ways and cycling is not
prohibited unless there is a bylaw"

Is he saying what I think he's saying?


It wouldn't be an offense to cycle on the pavement here then?

http://tinyurl.com/2uevnmo

Find that a little hard to believe.
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Old July 30th 10, 12:27 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:19:34 +0100, Adam Lea
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On 29/07/2010 20:15, Squashme wrote:
On 29 July, 19:13, wrote:
webreader wrote:
http://www.policespecials.com/forum/...owtopic=109959

An interesting police officer discussion board.

One or two posters here might like to post #5, which (correctly) makes the point:

"... cycling on a pavement isnt an offence, cycling on a footway is, might be
usefull to know if your issuing tickets for it ?".


"the foot way is the metre next to the road, pedestrian areas more
than a metre from the road are not foot ways and cycling is not
prohibited unless there is a bylaw"

Is he saying what I think he's saying?


It wouldn't be an offense to cycle on the pavement here then?

http://tinyurl.com/2uevnmo

Find that a little hard to believe.


Indeed:

The primary legislation which makes cycling on a footway an offence is
section 72 of the 1835 Highways Act, this provides that a person shall
be guilty of an offence if he "shall wilfully ride upon any footpath
or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or
accommodation of foot-passengers or shall wilfully lead or drive any
carriage of any description upon any such footpath or causeway."

I would describe those paths as causeways.

The legislation leads me to believe that the young couple pictured on
your Google streetview link may be committing an offense as they are
wilfully leading a "carriage of any description" (i.e. a push chair).


The use of the term causeway leads me to think that the law was
intended so that "foot-passengers" would not have to step aside from
the "footpath" or "causeway" into the stinking muck that would
inveitably be swilling about in the roads of 1835. Three feet seems
ample for that, and on the Streetview image you provided I expect that
a cyclist would get off at the most zealous of magistrates' courts if
they were cycling on the grass verge by the side of that road.
 




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