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Chafing chamois seam
Since the leather on my old saddle failed, I have tried three different
replacements and experienced the same problem, painful irritation where the seam of my shorts rubs and chafes my tender flesh. I've never had this problem before but now I wonder how I ever avoided it. I wonder if there is some characteristic I should be looking for in my hunt for the right saddle, or counterintuitive saddle-positioning trick. I know saddles are personal and subjective, but at this point would be grateful for any advice, personal stories, whatever. I put about 1000 miles on my first replacement saddle, wondering all the time if it was right, before the saddle settled the question for me during a century ride by really hurting me. This was a Bontrager saddle somewhat like the Serfas that had failed. I decided to try something really different next and got a Forte Pro SLX ( http://tinyurl.com/m9d3l ), a racy saddle from Performance. When that flunked the ride test I got a Forte Pro RS1 ( http://tinyurl.com/4jll74 ), an Arione knock-off. Again, ouch. As you can see, these are very different saddles. However, in every case the problem was chaffing along the seam that stitches the chamois to the shorts. Otherwise these saddles were all fine, though I'm not sure how suitable the SLX would be for a century ride. I own three pair of shorts of varying makes and vintages, and all chaff. I don't think the problem is the shorts. The stitching on all of them seems to be in good shape. I like to do long rides and have been looking at saddles that seem to offer good support. Should I try something with more padding? Is there something I am missing? Thanks for whatever light you can shed. |
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On Jun 19, 7:51*am, "OughtFour" wrote:
Since the leather on my old saddle failed, I have tried three different replacements and experienced the same problem, painful irritation where the seam of my shorts rubs and chafes my tender flesh. I've never had this problem before but now I wonder how I ever avoided it.. I wonder if there is some characteristic I should be looking for in my hunt for the right saddle, or counterintuitive saddle-positioning trick. I know saddles are personal and subjective, but at this point would be grateful for any advice, personal stories, whatever. I put about 1000 miles on my first replacement saddle, wondering all the time if it was right, before the saddle settled the question for me during a century ride by really hurting me. This was a Bontrager saddle somewhat like the Serfas that had failed. I decided to try something really different next and got a Forte Pro SLX (http://tinyurl.com/m9d3l), a racy saddle from Performance. When that flunked the ride test I got a Forte Pro RS1 (http://tinyurl.com/4jll74), an Arione knock-off. Again, ouch. As you can see, these are very different saddles. However, in every case the problem was chaffing along the seam that stitches the chamois to the shorts. Otherwise these saddles were all fine, though I'm not sure how suitable the SLX would be for a century ride. I own three pair of shorts of varying makes and vintages, and all chaff. I don't think the problem is the shorts. The stitching on all of them seems to be in good shape. I like to do long rides and have been looking at saddles that seem to offer good support. Should I try something with more padding? Is there something I am missing? Thanks for whatever light you can shed. Have you tried making adjustments to your saddle height and tilt? I've put on new saddles that chafed and found that if I lowered them a fraction of an inch it took some of the pressure off my crotch. If the nose of your saddle is too high, that can also cause chafing. The usual recommendation is to start with a level saddle and go from there. Smokey |
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On Jun 19, 9:51*am, "OughtFour" wrote:
Thanks for whatever light you can shed. http://www.antimonkeybutt.com/ Instead of wet, try dry. Just make sure you get the _Anti_ MBP, not the other stuff. --D-y |
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On Jun 19, 10:55*am, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
wrote: On Jun 19, 9:51 am, "OughtFour" wrote: Thanks for whatever light you can shed. http://www.antimonkeybutt.com/ Instead of wet, try dry. Just make sure you get the _Anti_ MBP, not the other stuff. *--D-y Finally, some helpful advice around here... Bill "gonna miss this place if RR drops Usenet" S. You're welcome, Bill. Forgot to mention: use tons of it and don't worry about ignorant comments-- although I haven't heard any and due to a long-running problem that has kept me off the bike at times, my seat bag is AMBP- colored. Oddly enough, I never had a real problem until I started using Assos Lancecreme, and that udder stuff that comes in the green can, a few years ago. No fun at all, the AMBP helps tremendously. Available in finer motorcycle stores (and Whole Foods, too). --D-y |
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On Jun 19, 8:51 am, "OughtFour" wrote:
Since the leather on my old saddle failed, I have tried three different replacements and experienced the same problem, painful irritation where the seam of my shorts rubs and chafes my tender flesh. I've never had this problem before but now I wonder how I ever avoided it. I wonder if there is some characteristic I should be looking for in my hunt for the right saddle, or counterintuitive saddle-positioning trick. I know saddles are personal and subjective, but at this point would be grateful for any advice, personal stories, whatever. I put about 1000 miles on my first replacement saddle, wondering all the time if it was right, before the saddle settled the question for me during a century ride by really hurting me. This was a Bontrager saddle somewhat like the Serfas that had failed. I decided to try something really different next and got a Forte Pro SLX (http://tinyurl.com/m9d3l), a racy saddle from Performance. When that flunked the ride test I got a Forte Pro RS1 (http://tinyurl.com/4jll74), an Arione knock-off. Again, ouch. As you can see, these are very different saddles. However, in every case the problem was chaffing along the seam that stitches the chamois to the shorts. Otherwise these saddles were all fine, though I'm not sure how suitable the SLX would be for a century ride. I own three pair of shorts of varying makes and vintages, and all chaff. I don't think the problem is the shorts. The stitching on all of them seems to be in good shape. I like to do long rides and have been looking at saddles that seem to offer good support. Should I try something with more padding? Is there something I am missing? Thanks for whatever light you can shed. The best thing is diaper rash ointment. It is essentially zinc oxide cream that doesn't break down while riding. Apply liberal amounts to your chamois. Actually, apply very liberal amounts. You can get it at your local pharmacy. A big tub of it is about $12.00. |
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On Jun 19, 12:25*pm, " wrote:
On Jun 19, 8:51 am, "OughtFour" wrote: Since the leather on my old saddle failed, I have tried three different replacements and experienced the same problem, painful irritation where the seam of my shorts rubs and chafes my tender flesh. I've never had this problem before but now I wonder how I ever avoided it. I wonder if there is some characteristic I should be looking for in my hunt for the right saddle, or counterintuitive saddle-positioning trick. I know saddles are personal and subjective, but at this point would be grateful for any advice, personal stories, whatever. I put about 1000 miles on my first replacement saddle, wondering all the time if it was right, before the saddle settled the question for me during a century ride by really hurting me. This was a Bontrager saddle somewhat like the Serfas that had failed. I decided to try something really different next and got a Forte Pro SLX (http://tinyurl.com/m9d3l), a racy saddle from Performance. When that flunked the ride test I got a Forte Pro RS1 (http://tinyurl.com/4jll74), an Arione knock-off. Again, ouch. As you can see, these are very different saddles. However, in every case the problem was chaffing along the seam that stitches the chamois to the shorts. Otherwise these saddles were all fine, though I'm not sure how suitable the SLX would be for a century ride. I own three pair of shorts of varying makes and vintages, and all chaff.. I don't think the problem is the shorts. The stitching on all of them seems to be in good shape. I like to do long rides and have been looking at saddles that seem to offer good support. Should I try something with more padding? Is there something I am missing? Thanks for whatever light you can shed. The best thing is diaper rash ointment. It is essentially zinc oxide cream that doesn't break down while riding. Apply liberal amounts to your chamois. Actually, apply very liberal amounts. You can get it at your local pharmacy. A big tub of it is about $12.00. This company sells replacement pads for shorts, very hi-tech, perhaps what goes into the best, or the most expensive shorts today. http://store.aerotechdesigns.com/prrecrpad.html For just the top layer, I somewhere saw a stock of just the true chamois, european cut and sewn. Just $5 each. Velo-Orange, Melpintoimports? Harry Travis |
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"smokey" wrote in message ... Have you tried making adjustments to your saddle height and tilt? I've put on new saddles that chafed and found that if I lowered them a fraction of an inch it took some of the pressure off my crotch. If the nose of your saddle is too high, that can also cause chafing. The usual recommendation is to start with a level saddle and go from there. Thanks. Nose down as much as I could tolerate did seem to help a little on my test rides. Also, counterintuitively, seat forward. I'll fiddle with height, though I'm afraid it may already be on the low side. Thanks for your advice. |
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On Jun 19, 11:25*am, " wrote:
On Jun 19, 8:51 am, "OughtFour" wrote: Since the leather on my old saddle failed, I have tried three different replacements and experienced the same problem, painful irritation where the seam of my shorts rubs and chafes my tender flesh. I've never had this problem before but now I wonder how I ever avoided it. I wonder if there is some characteristic I should be looking for in my hunt for the right saddle, or counterintuitive saddle-positioning trick. I know saddles are personal and subjective, but at this point would be grateful for any advice, personal stories, whatever. I put about 1000 miles on my first replacement saddle, wondering all the time if it was right, before the saddle settled the question for me during a century ride by really hurting me. This was a Bontrager saddle somewhat like the Serfas that had failed. I decided to try something really different next and got a Forte Pro SLX (http://tinyurl.com/m9d3l), a racy saddle from Performance. When that flunked the ride test I got a Forte Pro RS1 (http://tinyurl.com/4jll74), an Arione knock-off. Again, ouch. As you can see, these are very different saddles. However, in every case the problem was chaffing along the seam that stitches the chamois to the shorts. Otherwise these saddles were all fine, though I'm not sure how suitable the SLX would be for a century ride. I own three pair of shorts of varying makes and vintages, and all chaff.. I don't think the problem is the shorts. The stitching on all of them seems to be in good shape. I like to do long rides and have been looking at saddles that seem to offer good support. Should I try something with more padding? Is there something I am missing? Thanks for whatever light you can shed. The best thing is diaper rash ointment. It is essentially zinc oxide cream that doesn't break down while riding. Apply liberal amounts to your chamois. Actually, apply very liberal amounts. You can get it at your local pharmacy. A big tub of it is about $12.00. Well, I tried the diaper rash ointment, too. Didn't seem to work for me, not to say it won't for others. If you look, you should be able to find Zwitsal, a Dutch product. My mother-in-law brought some to the US for us, by test it works a lot better than most of the grocery/drug store stuff found in the USA. Babies R Us? There is one other superior product that is "medical", not common but available and having failed to trip my memory, I'll re-post when the name pops up. Both it and the Zwitsal were "emergency" use with our kids when they were in diapers-- notwithstanding "it's just zinc oxide". --D-y |
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"OughtFour" wrote in message
news:6ou6k.6671$7A1.2227@trndny04... Since the leather on my old saddle failed, I have tried three different replacements and experienced the same problem, painful irritation where the seam of my shorts rubs and chafes my tender flesh. http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?p...jor=1&minor=18 The San Marco Concor is also OK but it has a more limited seating position where it is comfortable. The Regal has a lot greater positioning error where it is still comfortable. |
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Just want to say thanks for all the suggestions of powders and ointments
and such. I suppose it may come to that, at least for really long rides, though I'm hoping (still) to find the right saddle & position to minimize the burn first. At this point 40 miles is about all I can get away with! I did better than that on the Bontrager. Thanks again, and keep it coming if there is more! |
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