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"Fignon rings alarm bells" about the state of french cycling..................
"Fignon rings alarm bells" about the state of french
cycling.................. (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ug05/aug06news ) The French need to restablish the use pro farming teams. When the French cycling had a farm team system they were very successful and had a lot of victores. |
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The French do still have a very firm and established farm team system.
Albi Velo Sport for AG2R, AVC Aix for Cofidis, Castelsarasin for Bouygues, Vendee U for Bouygues, and that's to name just a few, there are lots. Fignon might well have put his fingure on it when he raised the issue of DSs... He's not the fist the think it, but it is about time someone said it. Lets stop blaming the riders and look at the cause.. races, race formats, DSs etc... |
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"Fignon rings alarm bells" about the state of french cycling..................
I'm not convinced that the problem simply isn't that today's Frenchman
simply doesn't want to suffer the way it takes to succeed. Not that I blame them, mind you, but soccer certainly pays more and you suffer a great deal less. |
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"Fignon rings alarm bells" about the state of french cycling..................
Good point... I think the french don't race abroad as amateurs
enough.. meaning they only really get one type of racing... once they come across a different style of racing they have no riders able to adapt to that format. It's all about attacking. The attitude in France is also "wrong"... so long as you attack and show yourself, that's better than finishing 5th; everyone says you raced well, and the commentators make a big thing of you.. of course at the end of the day you've come in last, or not even finished... c'est la vie... They Spanish and French also need to realize that although they have a great cycling history, things have changed, they are now new more scientific methods of training/approaches to cycling. Few people in France use or know anything about Wattage, wind tunnels etc, the more scientific "new cycling" countries that are the USA, Australia, South Africa etc are proving to progress faster as nations in the cycling world than the established countries.. in my mind mainly due to open mindedness and willingness to adopt new methods. |
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"Fignon rings alarm bells" about the state of french cycling..................
Well, surely newer scientific methods of training make a lot of
improvement. But that implies that you have French riders that will apply themselves. I'm told that in Britany there are still a lot of riders but that the rest of France doesn't pay them any attention. Do you know if that's so? |
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"Fignon rings alarm bells" about the state of french cycling..................
This is cyclic phenomena, there has been a long series with some belgian
champions, then some french, then italians, we just end up with a long serie with one american champion, then we will seen in the future another serie, maybe australian champions ... or maybe also in the future again some good belgian racers, nobody knows what the future will be. What I can see is that many australian are always in the top ten of every race. This is simply cyclic, technology is the same for everybody at different levels but this is not enough to explain success, there must be a huge amount of work and an exceptional team around one true leader. "DepartFictif" a écrit dans le message de news: ... Good point... I think the french don't race abroad as amateurs enough.. meaning they only really get one type of racing... once they come across a different style of racing they have no riders able to adapt to that format. It's all about attacking. The attitude in France is also "wrong"... so long as you attack and show yourself, that's better than finishing 5th; everyone says you raced well, and the commentators make a big thing of you.. of course at the end of the day you've come in last, or not even finished... c'est la vie... They Spanish and French also need to realize that although they have a great cycling history, things have changed, they are now new more scientific methods of training/approaches to cycling. Few people in France use or know anything about Wattage, wind tunnels etc, the more scientific "new cycling" countries that are the USA, Australia, South Africa etc are proving to progress faster as nations in the cycling world than the established countries.. in my mind mainly due to open mindedness and willingness to adopt new methods. |
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"Fignon rings alarm bells" about the state of french cycling..................
I haven't experienced that. True the Breton do tend to keep to
themselves and have a lot of races up there, so they rarely go to other parts of France let alone other countries for races, but the rest does notice them.. especilly if it is flat and windy... Mateyboy b.vl might actually be right.. maybe that's just how things go and it really isn't much more complicated than that... sometimes we try and read too much into things. |
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