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Old November 18th 11, 09:46 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman[_4_]
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Default Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....

....a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB

---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."

"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.

"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.

"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.

"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.

"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.

"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )

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Old November 18th 11, 11:41 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Harry Brogan[_7_]
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Default Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman
wrote:

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....

...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB

---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."

"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.

"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.

"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.

"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.

"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.

"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )

-------------



Link please?
  #3  
Old November 18th 11, 06:19 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman[_4_]
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Default Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

On Nov 18, 2:41*am, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman





wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


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Old November 19th 11, 05:53 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Elrod Farggernugget
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Default Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

Where is the reference to a mountain bike in the article
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAVR1LVK2F.DTL ?
I read the article and saw it nowhere. Is there another link that says it
was a mountain bike? Just curious.

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

On Nov 18, 2:41 am, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman





wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


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Old November 19th 11, 02:27 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
T. Keating
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Default Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:53:11 -0700, "Elrod Farggernugget"
wrote:

Where is the reference to a mountain bike in the article
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAVR1LVK2F.DTL ?
I read the article and saw it nowhere. Is there another link that says it
was a mountain bike? Just curious.


It wasn't a mountain bike.

http://www.baycitizen.org/bikes/stor...-womans-death/
This article has a photograph of the biker being questioned by police
after the accident. The Racing/road bicycle appears to be undamaged.




"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

On Nov 18, 2:41 am, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman





wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


-------------


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Old November 20th 11, 05:20 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman[_4_]
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Default Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

On Nov 19, 5:27*am, T. Keating wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:53:11 -0700, "Elrod Farggernugget"

wrote:
Where is the reference to a mountain bike in the article
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAVR1LVK2....?
I read the article and saw it nowhere. Is there another link that says it
was a mountain bike? Just curious.


It wasn't a mountain bike.

http://www.baycitizen.org/bikes/stor...-womans-death/
This article has a photograph of the biker being questioned by police
after the accident. * The Racing/road bicycle appears to be undamaged.





"Mike Vandeman" *wrote in message
....


On Nov 18, 2:41 am, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman


wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


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Did you have a point?
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Old November 18th 11, 06:24 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Edward Dolan
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Default Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....

...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB

---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."

"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.

"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.

"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.

"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.

"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.

"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


How about 20 years in prison instead. Then the asshole will be 43 when he
gets out and less liable to be running people over on his ****ing bicycle.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old November 18th 11, 10:40 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman[_4_]
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Default Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

On Nov 18, 9:24*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message

...





Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


How about 20 years in prison instead. Then the asshole will be 43 when he
gets out and less liable to be running people over on his ****ing bicycle..

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota- Hide quoted text -

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At 09:51 AM 11/18/2011, [a friend] wrote:
One of the best friends of a friend of ours was hit & killed by a
cyclist who ran a red light at Columbus & Bay street in S.F. about 28
years ago. She was crossing at the crosswalk on a light that just
turned green and a cyclist was bombing down the street through the red
light. He knocked her in the air. She landed on her head, went into
a coma & died 2 weeks later. This situation that just happened is
nothing new - same mentality.

It sure seems like "gross negligence" to me!
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Old November 25th 11, 05:54 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jym Dyer
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Default Mountain [NOT!] Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

"CB" writes:
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....
...a mountain biker, in San Francisco.


=v= It was a road bike, not a mountain bike. Why does "CB"
presume to make an assertion that is completely false?

This story was in the 16 Nov. 2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.'
The poor woman -- being a tourist, she obviously didn't know
that in San Francisco people are supposed to jump out of the
way and let the biker just ride through. This is the same
"entitlement" mentality ...


=v= That being their 5th article on this incident from that
newspaper (there have been 2 more since), it being the typical
overhyped nonrepresentative "news" story because the incident
is such a rarity. This is the only such San Francisco fatality
I know of in the last 21 years, but the _Chronicle_ and other
media haven't taken the time to provide that context.

=v= Speaking of entitlement, motorists kill a pedestrian every
21 *days* in San Francisco, but we don't get wall-to-wall news
coverage like this to be used as fodder to concoct stories with
(were they tourists? what was going in the drivers' minds? can
we just make up something mean?).
_Jym_
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Old November 29th 11, 01:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
Mike Vandeman[_4_]
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Default Mountain [NOT!] Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian

On Nov 25, 8:54*am, Jym Dyer wrote:
"CB" writes:
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....
...a mountain biker, in San Francisco.


=v= It was a road bike, not a mountain bike. *Why does "CB"
presume to make an assertion that is completely false?


Beats me.

This story was in the 16 Nov. 2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.'
The poor woman -- being a tourist, she obviously didn't know
that in San Francisco people are supposed to jump out of the
way and let the biker just ride through. This is the same
"entitlement" mentality ...


=v= That being their 5th article on this incident from that
newspaper (there have been 2 more since), it being the typical
overhyped nonrepresentative "news" story because the incident
is such a rarity. *This is the only such San Francisco fatality
I know of in the last 21 years, but the _Chronicle_ and other
media haven't taken the time to provide that context.


It wouldn't change the fact that a bicyclist killed a pedestrian. Do
auto-caused deaths make that okay? Sheesh.

=v= Speaking of entitlement, motorists kill a pedestrian every
21 *days* in San Francisco, but we don't get wall-to-wall news
coverage like this to be used as fodder to concoct stories with
(were they tourists? what was going in the drivers' minds? can
we just make up something mean?).
* * _Jym_


 




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