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Old September 25th 06, 10:17 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
wafflycat
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The CTC has made an unwise move, I think.

According to the copy of Cycle which arrived this morning, Jon Snow is the
new CTC president, having been invited to take the role once Phil Liggett
steps down.

This will be Jon Snow, the newsreader, who back in February on 'Richard &
Judy' (13th February 2006) admitted he tells people not to take up cycling
as "it's too dangerous out there" and that cyclists should be kept separate
from traffic on separate facilities, so promoting the erroneous view that
cycling is inherently dangerous. How long is it going to take before this
comes back and bites the CTC in its organisational backside when the media
picks up on how the CTC has a president who thinks cyclists should be kept
off the roads, yet at the same time supporting Daniel Cadden, a CTC member
who was fined for cycling on the road. Mixed messages from the CTC, anyone?

I feel like handing in my CTC membership in disgust.

Cheers, helen s



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Old September 25th 06, 10:24 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pete Biggs
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wafflycat wrote:
The CTC has made an unwise move, I think.

According to the copy of Cycle which arrived this morning, Jon Snow
is the new CTC president, having been invited to take the role once
Phil Liggett steps down.

This will be Jon Snow, the newsreader, who back in February on
'Richard & Judy' (13th February 2006) admitted he tells people not to
take up cycling as "it's too dangerous out there" and that cyclists
should be kept separate from traffic on separate facilities, so
promoting the erroneous view that cycling is inherently dangerous.
How long is it going to take before this comes back and bites the CTC
in its organisational backside when the media picks up on how the CTC
has a president who thinks cyclists should be kept off the roads, yet
at the same time supporting Daniel Cadden, a CTC member who was fined
for cycling on the road. Mixed messages from the CTC, anyone?
I feel like handing in my CTC membership in disgust.


Jon with his high media profile should generate a lot of good publicity for
the CTC and cycling in general. Perhaps he will change his erroneous views
once the CTC educate him. Though it is weird to hire a president who needs
such education!

~PB


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Old September 25th 06, 10:26 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Clinch
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wafflycat wrote:

This will be Jon Snow, the newsreader, who back in February on 'Richard
& Judy' (13th February 2006) admitted he tells people not to take up
cycling as "it's too dangerous out there" and that cyclists should be
kept separate from traffic on separate facilities, so promoting the
erroneous view that cycling is inherently dangerous. How long is it
going to take before this comes back and bites the CTC in its
organisational backside when the media picks up on how the CTC has a
president who thinks cyclists should be kept off the roads, yet at the
same time supporting Daniel Cadden, a CTC member who was fined for
cycling on the road. Mixed messages from the CTC, anyone?


People do change their minds, especially when presented with the correct
information in place of their previous misapprehensions. Let's hope
that the CTC change Mr. Snow's. In the meantime, write to seek
assurance that they do their very best to do just that.

I feel like handing in my CTC membership in disgust.


I'd wait until he shows evidence of keeping it up before taking such a step.

Pete.
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Old September 25th 06, 10:29 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
wafflycat
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"Pete Biggs" wrote in
message ...


Jon with his high media profile should generate a lot of good publicity
for the CTC and cycling in general. Perhaps he will change his erroneous
views once the CTC educate him. Though it is weird to hire a president
who needs such education!

~PB


Yes, it was that high media profile that got him invited on to the Richard &
Judy show to discuss cycling, where he took it unpon himself to announce to
the viewers that when he's asked by anyone about taking up cycling, he tells
them not to do it... oh, and he admits to pavement cycling as well :-(

Cheers, helen s

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Old September 25th 06, 12:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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According to the copy of Cycle which arrived this morning, Jon Snow is the
new CTC president, having been invited to take the role once Phil Liggett
steps down.


Well that's great news, surely. A real (and high profile) cyclist
helping to represent the views of real cyclists to the wider public.

What more could you want? Somebody who is highly controlled by the
organisation, a puppet if you like?

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Old September 25th 06, 12:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
wafflycat
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"tom" wrote in message
oups.com...
According to the copy of Cycle which arrived this morning, Jon Snow is
the
new CTC president, having been invited to take the role once Phil Liggett
steps down.


Well that's great news, surely. A real (and high profile) cyclist
helping to represent the views of real cyclists to the wider public.

What more could you want? Somebody who is highly controlled by the
organisation, a puppet if you like?


How about someone who hasn't gone on national TV in February of this year on
'Richard & Judy' (13th February 2006) and admitted he tells people not to
take up cycling as "it's too dangerous out there" and that cyclists should
be kept separate from traffic on separate facilities, so promoting the
erroneous view that cycling is inherently dangerous. The CTC will now have a
president who has publicly said he tells people not to take up cycling.
Personally I'd much rather the CTC has a president who did not do that as
part of the role of the CTC is to actively encourage people to take up
cycling - not attempt to dissuade them of it.

Cheers, helen s

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Old September 25th 06, 12:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"wafflycat" wrote in message
...

"Pete Biggs" wrote in
message ...


Jon with his high media profile should generate a lot of good publicity
for the CTC and cycling in general. Perhaps he will change his erroneous
views once the CTC educate him. Though it is weird to hire a president
who needs such education!

~PB


Yes, it was that high media profile that got him invited on to the Richard
& Judy show to discuss cycling, where he took it unpon himself to announce
to the viewers that when he's asked by anyone about taking up cycling, he
tells them not to do it... oh, and he admits to pavement cycling as well
:-(


I think that's more than enough reasons to not hire him. I'd certainly hand
my CTC card back, if I had one.

The person at the healm doesn't need to be a keen cyclist, but has to
advocate the good things about it, and be a figurehead for good behaviour.


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Old September 25th 06, 01:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Clinch
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tom wrote:

What more could you want? Somebody who is highly controlled by the
organisation, a puppet if you like?


I'm not interested in a puppet, but I'd certainly prefer someone with a
Clue about both the relative and absolute dangers of cycling.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Old September 25th 06, 02:20 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Fox
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Following on from wafflycat's message. . .
The CTC has made an unwise move, I think.

According to the copy of Cycle which arrived this morning, Jon Snow is the
new CTC president, having been invited to take the role once Phil Liggett
steps down.

This will be Jon Snow, the newsreader, who back in February on 'Richard &
Judy' (13th February 2006) admitted he tells people not to take up cycling
as "it's too dangerous out there" and that cyclists should be kept separate
from traffic on separate facilities, so promoting the erroneous view that
cycling is inherently dangerous. How long is it going to take before this
comes back and bites the CTC in its organisational backside when the media
picks up on how the CTC has a president who thinks cyclists should be kept
off the roads, yet at the same time supporting Daniel Cadden, a CTC member
who was fined for cycling on the road. Mixed messages from the CTC, anyone?

I feel like handing in my CTC membership in disgust.

Cheers, helen s



Well said Helen.

I've already given up with the CTC else I'd want to know who thought
that somebody off the cab rank of after-dinner speakers was a good bet.
Let's face it cyclists are by their very nature do-ers and get the knees
dirty people. And (no offence intended to the large cohort of fit,
strong, and experienced cyclists) why have somebody who fits the
'retired old fogey with a basket on the handlebars and cycle clips on
their tweeds' stereotype when say a 25-y.o. mad red-haired uni-cyclist
would be better on the telly and better for 'what the hell - everyone
jump on and off we go'.

$64,000 question for urc : Who /would be/ a better ambassador?
The obvious candidate is Adam Hart-Davis who has the 'dirty knees'
qualification but there must be alternatives which those of you with
televisions and sporty knowledge would know about.

Cycling needs brains not mouthpieces.


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Old September 25th 06, 02:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pinky
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"wafflycat" wrote in message
...
The CTC has made an unwise move, I think.

According to the copy of Cycle which arrived this morning, Jon Snow is the
new CTC president, having been invited to take the role once Phil Liggett
steps down.

This will be Jon Snow, the newsreader, who back in February on 'Richard &
Judy' (13th February 2006) admitted he tells people not to take up cycling
as "it's too dangerous out there" and that cyclists should be kept
separate from traffic on separate facilities, so promoting the erroneous
view that cycling is inherently dangerous. How long is it going to take
before this comes back and bites the CTC in its organisational backside
when the media picks up on how the CTC has a president who thinks cyclists
should be kept off the roads, yet at the same time supporting Daniel
Cadden, a CTC member who was fined for cycling on the road. Mixed messages
from the CTC, anyone?

I feel like handing in my CTC membership in disgust.

Cheers, helen s



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