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Old May 19th 05, 09:05 PM
Gary S.
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:33:23 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:

"GaryG" wrote in message
...

Your continued attempts to use the deaths of others to support your

quixotic
quest to ban mountain biking is truly pathetic. You have a mental illness,


Mike...please seek help.

Or, shut the hell up. Either way, go away.

The flaws in what you both are saying he

A) That Mikey will allow any new information to enter his mind. He
does not recognize any source besides himself as valid.

B) That Mikey cares even slightly about other people. He ranks all
microorganisms above all humans other than himself. He does not care
about the safety of others, and certainly not about social
interaction.

C) That any of this is about anything other than feeding Mikey's
martyr complex and ego. He does not really care about the environment,
all he cares about is feeling that he is right about everything, and
superior to others.

D) All Mikey wants is attention, and he cannot discern between
positive and negative attention. He only cares about "winning" in his
own mind, by his own standards.

E) Mikey will never stop posting where he is not relevant and not
wanted, and he will never seek professional help. He believes that he
is right, and his psychological issues prevent him from acknowledging
the real world.

F) When all is said and done, Mikey has a negative impact on
protecting the environment, because his presence prevents reasonable
discussions about the environmental impact of recreation.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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Old May 19th 05, 11:01 PM
Gary S.
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 23:35:36 +0200, BarryNL
wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
This kind of thing is becoming downright common! It underscores the fact that
being on top of a bike, with very little traction, ESPECIALLY in unfamiliar
terrain, which mountain bikers seek out, is inherently risky. Bicycles have no
business on hiking trails, and people who advocate mountain biking on such
trails are irresponsible! There is absolutely no way to make mountain biking
safe.


Really? Well, according to the Consumer Product Safety Commission,
basketball is actually the sport responsible for the most injuries.
Perhaps you could bugger off to bother a basketball newsgroup instead?


On Mikey's brief crusade against cell phone usage, he posted to the
same 5 groups he always posts his anti-mountain bike crusade in,
instead of actually relevant groups.

Either he is stupid, or does not care if anyone takes him seriously.

(This not not preclude both of the above being true.)

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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Old May 19th 05, 11:33 PM
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"Gary S." wrote:

E) Mikey will never stop posting where he is not relevant and not
wanted, and he will never seek professional help. He believes that he
is right, and his psychological issues prevent him from acknowledging
the real world.


I dunno, if people didn't keep fanning his flames he would likely go away or
at least post a lot less, and there wouldn't be nearly such a low s/n ratio
in this group. To be honest, I view people who reply to his posts as being
every bit as destructive as he is himself.

Jon

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Old May 20th 05, 04:19 AM
Gary S.
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 20:57:20 -0400, pmhilton wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:

This kind of thing is becoming downright common! It underscores the fact that
being on top of a bike, with very little traction, ESPECIALLY in unfamiliar
terrain, which mountain bikers seek out, is inherently risky. Bicycles have no
business on hiking trails, and people who advocate mountain biking on such
trails are irresponsible! There is absolutely no way to make mountain biking
safe.

While this is more nearly on-topic compared with many of your posts, it
has nothing whatever to do with modifying the gene pool thorugh natural
selection.

Pete H


Certainly interesting for Mikey to talk about natural selection,
considering his own choice to guarantee the world no future Mikey Jr.

The above story is just another case where he cannot distinguish
between bicycling trails, roads, and hiking trails.

Mikey knows all about safety on bicycles, including his advice to
deliberately wobble in front of cars while riding on the roads.

But he will stop at nothing in his cause, no matter how many people he
hurts, or how much he damages his own stated goals, or how little he
actually accomplishes.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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Old May 21st 05, 02:29 PM
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Mike, can you suggest a tire with better grip that would add to the
safety of trail riding?

Mike Vandeman wrote:
This kind of thing is becoming downright common! It underscores the fact that
being on top of a bike, with very little traction, ESPECIALLY in unfamiliar
terrain, which mountain bikers seek out, is inherently risky. Bicycles have no
business on hiking trails, and people who advocate mountain biking on such
trails are irresponsible! There is absolutely no way to make mountain biking
safe.

Mike


Mountain biker dies from fall off cliff

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Old May 21st 05, 03:42 PM
Mike Vandeman
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 20:05:13 GMT, Gary S. [email protected] wrote:

..On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:33:23 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:
..
.."GaryG" wrote in message
...
..
.. Your continued attempts to use the deaths of others to support your
..quixotic
.. quest to ban mountain biking is truly pathetic. You have a mental illness,
..
.. Mike...please seek help.
..
..Or, shut the hell up. Either way, go away.
..
..The flaws in what you both are saying he
..
..A) That Mikey will allow any new information to enter his mind. He
..does not recognize any source besides himself as valid.
..
..B) That Mikey cares even slightly about other people. He ranks all
..microorganisms above all humans other than himself. He does not care
..about the safety of others, and certainly not about social
..interaction.
..
..C) That any of this is about anything other than feeding Mikey's
..martyr complex and ego. He does not really care about the environment,
..all he cares about is feeling that he is right about everything, and
..superior to others.
..
..D) All Mikey wants is attention,

If so, why do you keep giving it to me? Hypocrite.

and he cannot discern between
..positive and negative attention. He only cares about "winning" in his
..own mind, by his own standards.
..
..E) Mikey will never stop posting where he is not relevant and not
..wanted, and he will never seek professional help. He believes that he
..is right, and his psychological issues prevent him from acknowledging
..the real world.
..
..F) When all is said and done, Mikey has a negative impact on
..protecting the environment, because his presence prevents reasonable
..discussions about the environmental impact of recreation.
..
..Happy trails,
..Gary (net.yogi.bear)

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old May 21st 05, 03:43 PM
Mike Vandeman
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 15:33:16 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:

.."Gary S." wrote:
..
.. E) Mikey will never stop posting where he is not relevant and not
.. wanted, and he will never seek professional help. He believes that he
.. is right, and his psychological issues prevent him from acknowledging
.. the real world.
..
..I dunno, if people didn't keep fanning his flames he would likely go away or
..at least post a lot less, and there wouldn't be nearly such a low s/n ratio
..in this group. To be honest, I view people who reply to his posts as being
..every bit as destructive as he is himself.

Then what's YOUR excuse, hypocrite?

..Jon

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old May 21st 05, 03:47 PM
Mike Vandeman
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 09:29:53 -0400, SuperG wrote:

..Mike, can you suggest a tire with better grip that would add to the
..safety of trail riding?

He obviously outrode the ability of his tire, or ANY tire, to grip.

..Mike Vandeman wrote:
.. This kind of thing is becoming downright common! It underscores the fact that
.. being on top of a bike, with very little traction, ESPECIALLY in unfamiliar
.. terrain, which mountain bikers seek out, is inherently risky. Bicycles have no
.. business on hiking trails, and people who advocate mountain biking on such
.. trails are irresponsible! There is absolutely no way to make mountain biking
.. safe.
..
.. Mike
..
..
.. Mountain biker dies from fall off cliff

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old May 26th 05, 09:57 PM
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Here Here. Well put. Don't go away Mike, just go away.
"Is this trip REALLY necessary?" wrote in message
...
Mike Vandeman wrote in
:

Nature is of itself and is not limited to your hypocritical
interpretations.
It is not for the likes of you to either define what it is or how it
should
be appreciated by anyone other than for yourself. You have done nothing
but
insult and degrade the very thing you claim to be protecting. Drop the
act.

Done. Later.

Ikonicus
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415-203-1513



 




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