Every man has a different future

On 1/12/2020 1:23 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:25:37 UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 11:39:30 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

As battery technology and run time improves I do think that E-bikes
will gain in popularity especially if the price drops substantially
for a quality E-bike, battery and replacement battery.

That trend is already happening in Minneapolis. I see e-bikes daily
now, and some of them are pretty good looking machines compared to the
first couple of generations. I think we'll continue to see more of that
over the next decade for the reasons you cite. They might even replace
internal combustion scooters to an extent.

I disagree. E-bikes are sort of, kind of exercise related. And given the USA is in the top two or three of fatness and laziness in the whole world, I do not see any "exercise" related concept growing much. 40% of the USA is obese. And the other 60% are not necessarily fit and trim. Most of them are just not obese enough to be officially considered obese. Fat people are not going to ride mopeds or whatever e-bikes are. Or do anything exercise related.

I live 3/4 mile from a big grocery store. My neighborhood is about 100 houses and another 50 townhouses a further 100 yards across the road. I've been walking to the grocery store 2-3 times a week for the past 11 years. In that time I doubt I have seen ten other people walking to the grocery store. 3/4 mile, perfectly flat walk. Sidewalks the whole way. Think that is fatness and laziness demonstrating itself?

I had a friend back in t he 960s to 1980s who drove his car to the variety store that was sort of nearby. The distance? A whopping 523.5 FEET each way according to Google maps of that area. And that was flat with no hills at all. This was in Ontario, Canada. Some people just don't consider any other form of transportation other than their automobile.

Several years ago, we were visiting friends who lived in a condominium
complex in a big city. Their condo was one of three at the end of a
cul-de-sac.

As we sat eating breakfast on a beautiful morning, we saw the guy two
condos over walk out of the house in his bathrobe.

He got into his car, backed his car 50 feet down the driveway to the
mailbox, reached for his mail, then drove 50 feet back up to the
original parking space.

He then walked back into the house.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:25:14 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 1/12/2020 1:23 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:25:37 UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 11:39:30 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

As battery technology and run time improves I do think that E-bikes
will gain in popularity especially if the price drops substantially
for a quality E-bike, battery and replacement battery.

That trend is already happening in Minneapolis. I see e-bikes daily
now, and some of them are pretty good looking machines compared to the
first couple of generations. I think we'll continue to see more of that
over the next decade for the reasons you cite. They might even replace
internal combustion scooters to an extent.

I disagree. E-bikes are sort of, kind of exercise related. And given the USA is in the top two or three of fatness and laziness in the whole world, I do not see any "exercise" related concept growing much. 40% of the USA is obese. And the other 60% are not necessarily fit and trim. Most of them are just not obese enough to be officially considered obese. Fat people are not going to ride mopeds or whatever e-bikes are. Or do anything exercise related.

I live 3/4 mile from a big grocery store. My neighborhood is about 100 houses and another 50 townhouses a further 100 yards across the road. I've been walking to the grocery store 2-3 times a week for the past 11 years. In that time I doubt I have seen ten other people walking to the grocery store. 3/4 mile, perfectly flat walk. Sidewalks the whole way. Think that is fatness and laziness demonstrating itself?

I had a friend back in t he 960s to 1980s who drove his car to the variety store that was sort of nearby. The distance? A whopping 523.5 FEET each way according to Google maps of that area. And that was flat with no hills at all. This was in Ontario, Canada. Some people just don't consider any other form of transportation other than their automobile.

Several years ago, we were visiting friends who lived in a condominium
complex in a big city. Their condo was one of three at the end of a
cul-de-sac.

As we sat eating breakfast on a beautiful morning, we saw the guy two
condos over walk out of the house in his bathrobe.

He got into his car, backed his car 50 feet down the driveway to the
mailbox, reached for his mail, then drove 50 feet back up to the
original parking space.

He then walked back into the house.

In the coming digital age the neighbor will be able to sit on his sofa
and get the mail by pressing his thumb on a button :-)

If form really does follow function the "New American" will have runty
little legs and giant thumbs :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

On Sunday, 12 January 2020 19:17:45 UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:25:14 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 1/12/2020 1:23 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:25:37 UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 11:39:30 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

As battery technology and run time improves I do think that E-bikes
will gain in popularity especially if the price drops substantially
for a quality E-bike, battery and replacement battery.

That trend is already happening in Minneapolis. I see e-bikes daily
now, and some of them are pretty good looking machines compared to the
first couple of generations. I think we'll continue to see more of that
over the next decade for the reasons you cite. They might even replace
internal combustion scooters to an extent.

I disagree. E-bikes are sort of, kind of exercise related. And given the USA is in the top two or three of fatness and laziness in the whole world, I do not see any "exercise" related concept growing much. 40% of the USA is obese. And the other 60% are not necessarily fit and trim. Most of them are just not obese enough to be officially considered obese. Fat people are not going to ride mopeds or whatever e-bikes are. Or do anything exercise related.

I live 3/4 mile from a big grocery store. My neighborhood is about 100 houses and another 50 townhouses a further 100 yards across the road. I've been walking to the grocery store 2-3 times a week for the past 11 years. In that time I doubt I have seen ten other people walking to the grocery store. 3/4 mile, perfectly flat walk. Sidewalks the whole way. Think that is fatness and laziness demonstrating itself?

I had a friend back in t he 960s to 1980s who drove his car to the variety store that was sort of nearby. The distance? A whopping 523.5 FEET each way according to Google maps of that area. And that was flat with no hills at all. This was in Ontario, Canada. Some people just don't consider any other form of transportation other than their automobile.

Several years ago, we were visiting friends who lived in a condominium
complex in a big city. Their condo was one of three at the end of a
cul-de-sac.

As we sat eating breakfast on a beautiful morning, we saw the guy two
condos over walk out of the house in his bathrobe.

He got into his car, backed his car 50 feet down the driveway to the
mailbox, reached for his mail, then drove 50 feet back up to the
original parking space.

He then walked back into the house.

In the coming digital age the neighbor will be able to sit on his sofa
and get the mail by pressing his thumb on a button :-)

If form really does follow function the "New American" will have runty
little legs and giant thumbs :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

I remember in science classes that when they were talking about human evolution that some thought that eventually humans would be not much more than a brain attached to a machine that did everything the body used to.

Cheers

On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 18:47:53 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, 12 January 2020 19:17:45 UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:25:14 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 1/12/2020 1:23 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:25:37 UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 11:39:30 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

As battery technology and run time improves I do think that E-bikes
will gain in popularity especially if the price drops substantially
for a quality E-bike, battery and replacement battery.

That trend is already happening in Minneapolis. I see e-bikes daily
now, and some of them are pretty good looking machines compared to the
first couple of generations. I think we'll continue to see more of that
over the next decade for the reasons you cite. They might even replace
internal combustion scooters to an extent.

I disagree. E-bikes are sort of, kind of exercise related. And given the USA is in the top two or three of fatness and laziness in the whole world, I do not see any "exercise" related concept growing much. 40% of the USA is obese. And the other 60% are not necessarily fit and trim. Most of them are just not obese enough to be officially considered obese. Fat people are not going to ride mopeds or whatever e-bikes are. Or do anything exercise related.

I live 3/4 mile from a big grocery store. My neighborhood is about 100 houses and another 50 townhouses a further 100 yards across the road. I've been walking to the grocery store 2-3 times a week for the past 11 years. In that time I doubt I have seen ten other people walking to the grocery store. 3/4 mile, perfectly flat walk. Sidewalks the whole way. Think that is fatness and laziness demonstrating itself?

I had a friend back in t he 960s to 1980s who drove his car to the variety store that was sort of nearby. The distance? A whopping 523.5 FEET each way according to Google maps of that area. And that was flat with no hills at all. This was in Ontario, Canada. Some people just don't consider any other form of transportation other than their automobile.

Several years ago, we were visiting friends who lived in a condominium
complex in a big city. Their condo was one of three at the end of a
cul-de-sac.

As we sat eating breakfast on a beautiful morning, we saw the guy two
condos over walk out of the house in his bathrobe.

He got into his car, backed his car 50 feet down the driveway to the
mailbox, reached for his mail, then drove 50 feet back up to the
original parking space.

He then walked back into the house.

In the coming digital age the neighbor will be able to sit on his sofa
and get the mail by pressing his thumb on a button :-)

If form really does follow function the "New American" will have runty
little legs and giant thumbs :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

I remember in science classes that when they were talking about human evolution that some thought that eventually humans would be not much more than a brain attached to a machine that did everything the body used to.

Cheers

Perhaps the brain will not be needed in some instances. I recently
came across a film of a man shaped robot that could run, jump and fire
a weapon accurately and could tell the difference between friend and
foe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE
--
cheers,

John B.

On 13/01/2020 04:54, John B. wrote:

snip

Perhaps the brain will not be needed in some instances. I recently
came across a film of a man shaped robot that could run, jump and fire
a weapon accurately and could tell the difference between friend and
foe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE

Boston Dynamics really should stop this ****. We've all seen the movie.

On 1/12/2020 8:47 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 19:17:45 UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:25:14 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 1/12/2020 1:23 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:25:37 UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 11:39:30 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

As battery technology and run time improves I do think that E-bikes
will gain in popularity especially if the price drops substantially
for a quality E-bike, battery and replacement battery.

That trend is already happening in Minneapolis. I see e-bikes daily
now, and some of them are pretty good looking machines compared to the
first couple of generations. I think we'll continue to see more of that
over the next decade for the reasons you cite. They might even replace
internal combustion scooters to an extent.

I disagree. E-bikes are sort of, kind of exercise related. And given the USA is in the top two or three of fatness and laziness in the whole world, I do not see any "exercise" related concept growing much. 40% of the USA is obese. And the other 60% are not necessarily fit and trim. Most of them are just not obese enough to be officially considered obese. Fat people are not going to ride mopeds or whatever e-bikes are. Or do anything exercise related.

I live 3/4 mile from a big grocery store. My neighborhood is about 100 houses and another 50 townhouses a further 100 yards across the road. I've been walking to the grocery store 2-3 times a week for the past 11 years. In that time I doubt I have seen ten other people walking to the grocery store. 3/4 mile, perfectly flat walk. Sidewalks the whole way. Think that is fatness and laziness demonstrating itself?

I had a friend back in t he 960s to 1980s who drove his car to the variety store that was sort of nearby. The distance? A whopping 523.5 FEET each way according to Google maps of that area. And that was flat with no hills at all. This was in Ontario, Canada. Some people just don't consider any other form of transportation other than their automobile.

Several years ago, we were visiting friends who lived in a condominium
complex in a big city. Their condo was one of three at the end of a
cul-de-sac.

As we sat eating breakfast on a beautiful morning, we saw the guy two
condos over walk out of the house in his bathrobe.

He got into his car, backed his car 50 feet down the driveway to the
mailbox, reached for his mail, then drove 50 feet back up to the
original parking space.

He then walked back into the house.

In the coming digital age the neighbor will be able to sit on his sofa
and get the mail by pressing his thumb on a button :-)

If form really does follow function the "New American" will have runty
little legs and giant thumbs :-)

I remember in science classes that when they were talking about human evolution that some thought that eventually humans would be not much more than a brain attached to a machine that did everything the body used to.

Dystopian. What's the point of life then?

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/13/2020 1:06 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/01/2020 04:54, John B. wrote:

snip

Perhaps the brain will not be needed in some instances. I
recently
came across a film of a man shaped robot that could run,
jump and fire
a weapon accurately and could tell the difference between
friend and
foe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE

Boston Dynamics really should stop this ****. We've all
seen the movie.

If you think they are scary, think about how a chinese
developer would write the instructions...

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 13/01/2020 16:20, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/13/2020 1:06 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/01/2020 04:54, John B. wrote:

snip

Perhaps the brain will not be needed in some instances. I
recently
came across a film of a man shaped robot that could run,
jump and fire
a weapon accurately and could tell the difference between
friend and
foe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE

Boston Dynamics really should stop this ****.Â* We've all
seen the movie.

If you think they are scary, think about how a chinese developer would
write the instructions...

Szechuan roast pork
Beef with mushroom
Chicken with cashew nut
King prawn with spring onion & ginger
House special chop suey
Prawn toast
Fried rice
Prawn crackers

Sorted!

On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 7:16:04 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/12/2020 8:47 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 19:17:45 UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:25:14 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 1/12/2020 1:23 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:25:37 UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 11:39:30 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

As battery technology and run time improves I do think that E-bikes
will gain in popularity especially if the price drops substantially
for a quality E-bike, battery and replacement battery.

That trend is already happening in Minneapolis. I see e-bikes daily
now, and some of them are pretty good looking machines compared to the
first couple of generations. I think we'll continue to see more of that
over the next decade for the reasons you cite. They might even replace
internal combustion scooters to an extent.

I disagree. E-bikes are sort of, kind of exercise related. And given the USA is in the top two or three of fatness and laziness in the whole world, I do not see any "exercise" related concept growing much. 40% of the USA is obese. And the other 60% are not necessarily fit and trim. Most of them are just not obese enough to be officially considered obese. Fat people are not going to ride mopeds or whatever e-bikes are. Or do anything exercise related.

I live 3/4 mile from a big grocery store. My neighborhood is about 100 houses and another 50 townhouses a further 100 yards across the road. I've been walking to the grocery store 2-3 times a week for the past 11 years. In that time I doubt I have seen ten other people walking to the grocery store. 3/4 mile, perfectly flat walk. Sidewalks the whole way. Think that is fatness and laziness demonstrating itself?

I had a friend back in t he 960s to 1980s who drove his car to the variety store that was sort of nearby. The distance? A whopping 523.5 FEET each way according to Google maps of that area. And that was flat with no hills at all. This was in Ontario, Canada. Some people just don't consider any other form of transportation other than their automobile.

Several years ago, we were visiting friends who lived in a condominium
complex in a big city. Their condo was one of three at the end of a
cul-de-sac.

As we sat eating breakfast on a beautiful morning, we saw the guy two
condos over walk out of the house in his bathrobe.

He got into his car, backed his car 50 feet down the driveway to the
mailbox, reached for his mail, then drove 50 feet back up to the
original parking space.

He then walked back into the house.

In the coming digital age the neighbor will be able to sit on his sofa
and get the mail by pressing his thumb on a button :-)

If form really does follow function the "New American" will have runty
little legs and giant thumbs :-)

I remember in science classes that when they were talking about human evolution that some thought that eventually humans would be not much more than a brain attached to a machine that did everything the body used to.

Dystopian. What's the point of life then?

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I grew up with an uncle that had polio and lost the use of his legs. For a long time he was in an Iron Lung. So I have a rather more accurate view of what people attached to machines think and it isn't that they would want to have replaceable parts.

On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 7:14:13 PM UTC, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/01/2020 16:20, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/13/2020 1:06 AM, Tosspot wrote:
On 13/01/2020 04:54, John B. wrote:

snip

Perhaps the brain will not be needed in some instances. I
recently
came across a film of a man shaped robot that could run,
jump and fire
a weapon accurately and could tell the difference between
friend and
foe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE

Boston Dynamics really should stop this ****.Â* We've all
seen the movie.

If you think they are scary, think about how a chinese developer would
write the instructions...

Szechuan roast pork
Beef with mushroom
Chicken with cashew nut
King prawn with spring onion & ginger
House special chop suey
Prawn toast
Fried rice
Prawn crackers

Sorted!

Okay, you sorted the opera, but we were really hoping for a Broadway musical.

AJ