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Old November 25th 10, 08:05 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_2_]
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Default Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered

In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was stamped
by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking
for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/

Mrcheerful


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Old November 25th 10, 08:43 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Oxford motorists immune from crackdowns.

On Nov 25, 8:05*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. *The receipt was stamped
by the police. *The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking
for refunds!! *The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...ews/8672181.St...

Pity the police do not conduct a similar campaign against faulty cars,
probably because they are motorists themselves and therefore hate
cyclists anyway, like the motorists who infest this cycling newsgroup

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Old November 25th 10, 08:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Oxford motorists immune from crackdowns.

On Nov 25, 8:43*am, Doug wrote:
On Nov 25, 8:05*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote: In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. *The receipt was stamped
by the police. *The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking
for refunds!! *The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...ews/8672181.St...


Pity the police do not conduct a similar campaign against faulty cars,
probably because they are motorists themselves and therefore hate
cyclists anyway, like the motorists who infest this cycling newsgroup


But they do have such campaigns. The fact that they are so common
means they are not reported.
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Old November 25th 10, 08:55 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tony Raven[_3_]
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Default Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered

"Mrcheerful" wrote:
In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes
in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive
that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was
stamped
by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and
asking
for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for
the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers
so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/

Mrcheerful


Order them on-line and return them under the 7 day rule. Bypasses the
local police and shops completely. I think Oxford students might be a
tad less dim than you.

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Old November 25th 10, 09:41 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_2_]
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Default Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered

Tony Raven wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote:
In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes
in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive
that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was
stamped
by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and
asking
for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for
the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers
so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/

Mrcheerful


Order them on-line and return them under the 7 day rule. Bypasses the
local police and shops completely. I think Oxford students might be a
tad less dim than you.


aah, so you have to be clever to be a serial law breaking cyclist, glad I am
not in that case.


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Old November 25th 10, 10:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
JMS
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Default Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:05:50 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was stamped
by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking
for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/

Mrcheerful




Wicked

"During a three-hour operation in High Street, Oxford, on Monday,
November 1, 106 cycles were issued with 30 fines for riding without
lights."

I think this is quite unfair.

The majority will have had working lights when they set off - but the
batteries will have failed en-route.

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Old November 25th 10, 10:04 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JMS
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Default Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered

On 25 Nov 2010 08:55:16 GMT, Tony Raven wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote:
In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes
in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive
that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was
stamped
by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and
asking
for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for
the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers
so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/

Mrcheerful


Order them on-line and return them under the 7 day rule. Bypasses the
local police and shops completely. I think Oxford students might be a
tad less dim than you.



Good job you're not dim.

Good point I will forward you letter to the police and suggest that
they hang on to the receipts for at least seven days and the cyclists
have to make a second journey to the police station after 7 days if
they want them back.

Thanks for grassing them up.


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Van: 5 people
Bus/Coach: 9 people
Car : 18 people
Pedestrians: 358 people

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Old November 25th 10, 10:08 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
bod
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Default Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered

On 25/11/2010 10:01, JMS wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:05:50 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was stamped
by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking
for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/

Mrcheerful




Wicked

"During a three-hour operation in High Street, Oxford, on Monday,
November 1, 106 cycles were issued with 30 fines for riding without
lights."

I think this is quite unfair.

The majority will have had working lights when they set off - but the
batteries will have failed en-route.



More likely, is that when the cyclists set off, there was no power going
to their brains.

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Old November 25th 10, 10:21 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Jethro[_3_]
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Default Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered

On Nov 25, 10:01*am, JMS wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:05:50 -0000, "Mrcheerful"

wrote:
In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. *The receipt was stamped
by the police. *The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking
for refunds!! *The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...ews/8672181.St...


Mrcheerful


Wicked

"During a three-hour operation in High Street, Oxford, on Monday,
November 1, 106 cycles were issued with 30 fines for riding without
lights."

I think this is quite unfair.

The majority will have had working lights when they set off - but the
batteries will have failed en-route.


Police recently (well, now I come to think about it 2-3 years ago) did
a similar thing with child seats. They turned up at schools, and
*warned* the parents who were driving illegally (no FPNs - just
verbally) what they needed to do. They then went back a month later,
and issued almost as many FPNs as they had warnings. I.e. people had
ignored them.

It was quite an amusing radio piece, as this gobby "innit" chavvy
women tried to go on about how the police was "persecuting" them, but
couldn't answer the reporters (fair point) about why they chose to do
nothing despite having had a months notice.
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Old November 25th 10, 11:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default Oxford cyclists too dim to take the break that was offered

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:01:03 +0000, JMS
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:05:50 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

In the Oxford crackdown on unlit cycles which netted 106 unlit bikes in a
very short time, the police issued 30pound FPNs, but agreed to waive that if
a receipt for bike lights was produced in 7 days. The receipt was stamped
by the police. The cyclists have then been returning the lights and asking
for refunds!! The police have asked that any shop that refunds for the
lights get and pass on names and addresses of the serial lawbreakers so that
a 60 pound fpn can be issued.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/...g_light_fines/


As a matter of interest, are you still allowed to use dynamo lights on
bikes? They were a really good idea from a practical point of view,
even though they didn't produce much light (and none when the vehicle
was stationary). Especially good were the 'dynohubs' as they didn't
significantly increase the drag. No flat batteries, theft resistant.

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