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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:33:12 -0700, Mark Hickey
wrote: JT's pernicious accusations are just the latest in a long series, but they're the ones that opened my eyes to the reality that this is no longer any fun, and there are many better ways I can spend my time. I have a very full life, a wonderful family (including four new granddaughters). I can ride my bike more. You're a coward. All you have to do is not talk about politics and I wont bring up your more disgusting political views. Or even killfile me. Actually you've been a coward and a bully (threatening to sue me for libel!). -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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John Forrest Tomlinson a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:33:12 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote: JT's pernicious accusations are just the latest in a long series, but they're the ones that opened my eyes to the reality that this is no longer any fun, and there are many better ways I can spend my time. I have a very full life, a wonderful family (including four new granddaughters). I can ride my bike more. You're a coward. All you have to do is not talk about politics and I wont bring up your more disgusting political views. Or even killfile me. Actually you've been a coward and a bully (threatening to sue me for libel!). There are more gracious ways of having the last word. |
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:46:27 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:33:12 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote: JT's pernicious accusations are just the latest in a long series, but they're the ones that opened my eyes to the reality that this is no longer any fun, and there are many better ways I can spend my time. I have a very full life, a wonderful family (including four new granddaughters). I can ride my bike more. You're a coward. All you have to do is not talk about politics and I wont bring up your more disgusting political views. Or even killfile me. Actually you've been a coward and a bully (threatening to sue me for libel!). Do let us know how this progresses - if at all. |
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Gary Young wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:33:12 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote: snip So, it's with absolute joy and anticipation that I bid you all a fond farewell. I hope you'll reconsider at some point. I don't agree with your politics, but I think you've been a voice of reason on matters of bicycle technology, which this list is purportedly about. The reign of the yippy dogs seems once step closer with your departure. Just look at Mark's "Floyd Thread". He posts an opinionated narrative about attending a presentation /relevant to cycling/. He's then personally attacked /because he's a conservative/. Then Flogger chimes in with lies and misrepresentations about what he's said in the past. (For example, how does one answer an angry, baseless charge of, say, racism? One is automatically put on the defensive, and can either ignore it -- tacitly accept? -- or "protest too much" and be drawn into a senseless flame war. Totally no-win.) I hope Mark will reconsider because SHUTTING OUT OPPOSING VOICES is an obvious tactic of a certain political movement nowadays, and by his bowing out it's playing right into their pocket-picking hands. One suggestion I wish he'd try: plonk those abusive, personal attackers and see what happens. If they don't provoke responses, maybe (MAYBE) they'll stop the baiting. (And he won't see it, anyway.) Worth a shot, Mark?!? |
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:56:01 +0200, "Sandy" wrote:
Dans le message de , John Forrest Tomlinson a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:33:12 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote: JT's pernicious accusations are just the latest in a long series, but they're the ones that opened my eyes to the reality that this is no longer any fun, and there are many better ways I can spend my time. I have a very full life, a wonderful family (including four new granddaughters). I can ride my bike more. You're a coward. All you have to do is not talk about politics and I wont bring up your more disgusting political views. Or even killfile me. Actually you've been a coward and a bully (threatening to sue me for libel!). There are more gracious ways of having the last word. Indeed. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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Sandy wrote:
Dans le message de , John Forrest Tomlinson a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:33:12 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote: JT's pernicious accusations are just the latest in a long series, but they're the ones that opened my eyes to the reality that this is no longer any fun, and there are many better ways I can spend my time. I have a very full life, a wonderful family (including four new granddaughters). I can ride my bike more. You're a coward. All you have to do is not talk about politics and I wont bring up your more disgusting political views. Or even killfile me. And there you have it: Mark can't contribute to a political thread/discussion because Flogger doesn't like (and completely misrepresents) his views. Actually you've been a coward and a bully (threatening to sue me for libel!). He should. Too bad Flogger's not worth it. There are more gracious ways of having the last word. What is the Left so afraid of? Why does it want to SILENCE opposing opinions? ("The debate is over." "There is Consensus." Its talking heads name-call all the time, but let someone on the Right answer in kind and it's "hate speech" and the "politics of personal destruction". Hypocrisy is what it is.) Instead of debating issues, the left goes personal almost immediately; then it has a conniption fit if someone calls it. And again, by Mark bowing out it gives them exactly what they're trying to achieve. Another year or so and this might as well be a blog... BS |
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:09:13 -0700, "Bill Sornson"
wrote: Just look at Mark's "Floyd Thread". He posts an opinionated narrative about attending a presentation /relevant to cycling/. He's then personally attacked /because he's a conservative/. Ahh, let's fill in the blanks. The discussion was only about cycling until *you* brought up Scooter Libby. I said something equally non-cycling in response to your post. Then Mark Hickey said something non-cycling in response to mine. Then I went back at him. So *you* were the first person who brought non-cycling stuff/political stuff into that thread. And *Mark* was the first person (between Mark and me) to talk about politics. I was the last -- at least as far as Hickey is concerned. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:23:13 -0700, "Bill Sornson"
wrote: Mark can't contribute to a political thread/discussion because Flogger doesn't like (and completely misrepresents) his views. Mark can contribute all he wants. But if he can't take other people pointing out the evil nature of his political views, he might want to avoid it. Just a suggestion. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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Mark Hickey wrote:
\ Happy trails, Filters are your friend. |
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Gary Young wrote:
I hope you'll reconsider at some point. I Me too Mark! Stick around |
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