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Old November 12th 20, 04:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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....and it appears there is at least proof of it in several states where numerous dead voters cast votes, probably for Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...ud-dead-voters

In the seventies when I was a young lawyer and a WNC elections official I concluded that even though absentee ballots were required to be authenticated by a notary public, we received more than just a few at our board of elections where it appeared that both the voter and the notary were crooks.

And I have seen quite a few notarial acknowledgments that were forged. All you need is a stolen or fake seal and a little bit of legalese to do it.

So I told you that the latest RELAXED rules on absentee ballots was a freeway to election fraud.

I'm a little elderly now and having trouble with cataracts so I'll cut this short, but I'd also like to point out that these big dark and inscrutable computer tabulation companies like Dominion and ES&S also have easy ways to commit electronic fraud. In addition, their systems are porous and easy to hack, as Russ Ramsland will tell you.

So you should monitor credible claims made by Harvard grad, Russ Ramsland of Dallas, and MIT scientist, Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, who have proved electronic election fraud. Stalin was so right about that when he said all you need is the power to COUNT the votes.

I'll try to come back and post more about electronic fraud later, with URLs..

Also watch tweets by superlawyer Sidney Powell. And if you're conservative go RUMBLE and PARLER.

Happy bicycling! Damn, what with gaining weight during this big quarantine and grocery store paranoia, I need endorphens and calories burnt. Plus, the outside world here in WNC, with our bears, raccoons, and foxes roaming the streets of Asheville, is so beautiful!
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Old November 12th 20, 05:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:45:07 AM UTC-8, 2wheelfan wrote:
...and it appears there is at least proof of it in several states where numerous dead voters cast votes, probably for Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...ud-dead-voters

In the seventies when I was a young lawyer and a WNC elections official I concluded that even though absentee ballots were required to be authenticated by a notary public, we received more than just a few at our board of elections where it appeared that both the voter and the notary were crooks.

And I have seen quite a few notarial acknowledgments that were forged. All you need is a stolen or fake seal and a little bit of legalese to do it.

So I told you that the latest RELAXED rules on absentee ballots was a freeway to election fraud.

I'm a little elderly now and having trouble with cataracts so I'll cut this short, but I'd also like to point out that these big dark and inscrutable computer tabulation companies like Dominion and ES&S also have easy ways to commit electronic fraud. In addition, their systems are porous and easy to hack, as Russ Ramsland will tell you.

So you should monitor credible claims made by Harvard grad, Russ Ramsland of Dallas, and MIT scientist, Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, who have proved electronic election fraud. Stalin was so right about that when he said all you need is the power to COUNT the votes.

I'll try to come back and post more about electronic fraud later, with URLs.

Also watch tweets by superlawyer Sidney Powell. And if you're conservative go RUMBLE and PARLER.

Happy bicycling! Damn, what with gaining weight during this big quarantine and grocery store paranoia, I need endorphens and calories burnt. Plus, the outside world here in WNC, with our bears, raccoons, and foxes roaming the streets of Asheville, is so beautiful!


Oddly, Oregon has been a vote by mail state for 20 years, and the fraud rate has been determined by impartial, non-Fox news infotainment commentators at 0.0000006%. https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/10/1...eedingly-rare/

-- Jay Beattie.


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Old November 12th 20, 05:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:45:07 AM UTC-8, 2wheelfan wrote:
...and it appears there is at least proof of it in several states where numerous dead voters cast votes, probably for Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...ud-dead-voters

In the seventies when I was a young lawyer and a WNC elections official I concluded that even though absentee ballots were required to be authenticated by a notary public, we received more than just a few at our board of elections where it appeared that both the voter and the notary were crooks.

And I have seen quite a few notarial acknowledgments that were forged. All you need is a stolen or fake seal and a little bit of legalese to do it.

So I told you that the latest RELAXED rules on absentee ballots was a freeway to election fraud.

I'm a little elderly now and having trouble with cataracts so I'll cut this short, but I'd also like to point out that these big dark and inscrutable computer tabulation companies like Dominion and ES&S also have easy ways to commit electronic fraud. In addition, their systems are porous and easy to hack, as Russ Ramsland will tell you.

So you should monitor credible claims made by Harvard grad, Russ Ramsland of Dallas, and MIT scientist, Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, who have proved electronic election fraud. Stalin was so right about that when he said all you need is the power to COUNT the votes.

I'll try to come back and post more about electronic fraud later, with URLs.

Also watch tweets by superlawyer Sidney Powell. And if you're conservative go RUMBLE and PARLER.

Happy bicycling! Damn, what with gaining weight during this big quarantine and grocery store paranoia, I need endorphens and calories burnt. Plus, the outside world here in WNC, with our bears, raccoons, and foxes roaming the streets of Asheville, is so beautiful!

The faulty software used to count Trump votes as Biden votes when the gap between the two of them grew to a certain number to trigger the reversal of votes was used in 28 states. Gee, many just happened to be previously Red states that suddenly and inexplicably turned Blue.

More to come since every one of these state Counts will be challenged. Biden apparently believes that the election is not in the hands of the voter but those of the Lame Stream Media.
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Old November 12th 20, 05:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 8:17:01 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:

Oddly, Oregon has been a vote by mail state for 20 years, and the fraud rate has been determined by impartial, non-Fox news infotainment commentators at 0.0000006%. https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/10/1...eedingly-rare/


Perhaps Oregon is perfectly far left but most of the people I know that live there are not. Your claims supported by a Lame Stream Media article are hardly convincing.
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Old November 12th 20, 05:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 17:38:21 UTC+1 schreef :

Gee, many just happened to be previously Red states that suddenly and inexplicably turned Blue.

Was that not also the case 4 years ago, just the other way round? Just asking.

Lou, please USA get your **** together
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Old November 12th 20, 06:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 8:53:33 AM UTC-8, wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 17:38:21 UTC+1 schreef :
Gee, many just happened to be previously Red states that suddenly and inexplicably turned Blue.
Was that not also the case 4 years ago, just the other way round? Just asking.

Lou, please USA get your **** together

Yes, but in the case with this election the Democrats made every single effort to provide the possibility of election fraud. Not only did the sending out wholesale of ballots provide the perfect opportunity for fraud, but the counting software was specifically designed to fraudulently count votes when it reached a trigger level of difference. And this software was used in 28 states. Arizona is a perfect example of a deep red state suddenly and inexplicably turning blue. As I mentioned before Trump was overwhelmingly supported. For every Biden campaign sign in a front yard there were 40 Trump. Can you imagine Trump's trip from the airport to his rally center being lined the entire 10 miles with Trump supporters who couldn't get into his Rally? That the Californians that had moved to Arizona recently were themselves fleeing the failed California socialist policies. When you have court documented voter fraud plus Democrat controlled fraudulent and illegal activities at these vote counting centers there's not a whole lot you can do except recount and to put those responsible for their failures into a deep dark dungeon.
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Old November 12th 20, 07:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 8:49:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 8:17:01 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:

Oddly, Oregon has been a vote by mail state for 20 years, and the fraud rate has been determined by impartial, non-Fox news infotainment commentators at 0.0000006%. https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/10/1...eedingly-rare/


Perhaps Oregon is perfectly far left but most of the people I know that live there are not. Your claims supported by a Lame Stream Media article are hardly convincing.


Lame Stream Media? You mean the Oregon Secretary of State, Oregon Department of Justice and the non-partisan Oregon Legislative Fiscal Office? Okey-dokey. You hang in there with the infotainment experts at Fox news and the Trump office of disinformation -- and your imagination. All reliable sources, if you're an idiot.


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Old November 12th 20, 07:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 18:06:11 UTC+1 schreef :
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 8:53:33 AM UTC-8, wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 17:38:21 UTC+1 schreef :
Gee, many just happened to be previously Red states that suddenly and inexplicably turned Blue.
Was that not also the case 4 years ago, just the other way round? Just asking.

Lou, please USA get your **** together

Yes, but in the case with this election the Democrats made every single effort to provide the possibility of election fraud. Not only did the sending out wholesale of ballots provide the perfect opportunity for fraud, but the counting software was specifically designed to fraudulently count votes when it reached a trigger level of difference. And this software was used in 28 states. Arizona is a perfect example of a deep red state suddenly and inexplicably turning blue. As I mentioned before Trump was overwhelmingly supported. For every Biden campaign sign in a front yard there were 40 Trump.. Can you imagine Trump's trip from the airport to his rally center being lined the entire 10 miles with Trump supporters who couldn't get into his Rally? That the Californians that had moved to Arizona recently were themselves fleeing the failed California socialist policies. When you have court documented voter fraud plus Democrat controlled fraudulent and illegal activities at these vote counting centers there's not a whole lot you can do except recount and to put those responsible for their failures into a deep dark dungeon.


I spent quite a lot of time before this elections to get informed what was/is going on in the USA and what the outcome of the elections could be and I tried to keep an open mind (not just FOX news) The last elections were already close and a lot of traditional Democrats choose for Trump because they didn't like Mrs Clinton (I can understand that). What if a part of those Democrats regretted their choice 4 years ago because Trump behaved like he did and returned back to the Democrats this elections? Would it not be possible that this time the coin could fall to the other side? It was still close.

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Old November 12th 20, 11:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 11/12/2020 1:34 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:

I spent quite a lot of time before this elections to get informed what was/is going on in the USA and what the outcome of the elections could be and I tried to keep an open mind (not just FOX news) The last elections were already close and a lot of traditional Democrats choose for Trump because they didn't like Mrs Clinton (I can understand that). What if a part of those Democrats regretted their choice 4 years ago because Trump behaved like he did and returned back to the Democrats this elections? Would it not be possible that this time the coin could fall to the other side? It was still close.


About not liking Mrs. Clinton: Personal preferences vary greatly, but I
find it amazing that people would prefer Trump's personality over H.
Clinton's. As I may have mentioned before, I have two friends who work
for the State Department, both very intelligent people. They observed
Clinton for many years as part of their jobs. They said she was _always_
the smartest person in the room, and they personally got along fine with
her - no complaints.

But that's the previous election. About Democrats regretting their
previous Trump choice: Trump nearly won our traditionally Democratic
county in 2016 by coming here and saying about the closed plants, "Those
[manufacturing] jobs have left Ohio." [but] "They’re all coming back.
They’re all coming back. Don’t move. Don’t sell your house."

Well. The unemployment rate fell very slightly over Trump's term, but
the big plants certainly did not come back. Then the Lordstown GM plant
closed, laying off over 1500 people. And of course, enemployment surged
under COVID. Those jobs did NOT come back. Promises were certainly not
kept, and the area is certainly worse off than in 2016.

But Trump won the county this year. Go figure.

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Old November 13th 20, 01:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 17:44:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
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On 11/12/2020 1:34 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:

I spent quite a lot of time before this elections to get informed what was/is going on in the USA and what the outcome of the elections could be and I tried to keep an open mind (not just FOX news) The last elections were already close and a lot of traditional Democrats choose for Trump because they didn't like Mrs Clinton (I can understand that). What if a part of those Democrats regretted their choice 4 years ago because Trump behaved like he did and returned back to the Democrats this elections? Would it not be possible that this time the coin could fall to the other side? It was still close.


About not liking Mrs. Clinton: Personal preferences vary greatly, but I
find it amazing that people would prefer Trump's personality over H.
Clinton's. As I may have mentioned before, I have two friends who work
for the State Department, both very intelligent people. They observed
Clinton for many years as part of their jobs. They said she was _always_
the smartest person in the room, and they personally got along fine with
her - no complaints.

But that's the previous election. About Democrats regretting their
previous Trump choice: Trump nearly won our traditionally Democratic
county in 2016 by coming here and saying about the closed plants, "Those
[manufacturing] jobs have left Ohio." [but] "They’re all coming back.
They’re all coming back. Don’t move. Don’t sell your house."

Well. The unemployment rate fell very slightly over Trump's term, but
the big plants certainly did not come back. Then the Lordstown GM plant
closed, laying off over 1500 people. And of course, enemployment surged
under COVID. Those jobs did NOT come back. Promises were certainly not
kept, and the area is certainly worse off than in 2016.

But Trump won the county this year. Go figure.


But didn't Mrs. Clinton win the "popular vote" I think I remember that
Trump won only on the Electoral Collage vote, which is of course how
the system works, but that "the people" clearly preferred Mrs.
Clinton.

If they ever finish counting votes it will be interesting to see how
the election came out this time.
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John B.

 




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