90 percent of cyclists had no lights

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...-police-147907

On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:16:56 +0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

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Shop-lifters: let them off if they return the goods.

None payment of road tax: let them off if they buy some

No insurance: let them off if they get some.

Mrcheerful wrote:


http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...ntinue-flout-o
xford-bike-lights-law-say-police-147907

maybe because it's a student town? bikes here, (edge of london) tend to
go for the lit up like a christmas tree.

Roger Merriman

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...-police-147907

That's a problem even in places where winter nights are only 14 hours long. Lights are so cheap there is no excuse to not have lights.

This will partially solve itself with fashion lights, i.e., spoke lights for every spoke, etc. The other night I saw a skate board with brilliant green wheels.

On top of that just about every culture likes bright colored cloths. The endless innovation of the apparel, LED and photo voltaic industries will without doubt eventually produce a popular fabric that is luminescent for hours if not forever. Unless you are over weight it looks ok to glow in the dark.


Bret Cahill

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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"This story wins the prize for most ridiculous statistic of the day. Of
course 89% of riders stopped didn't have adequate lights: they presumably
weren't stopping the ones who DID have adequate lights.."

Err... and how come that of the people stopped for not having lights only
89% didn't have lights? So what kind of non-lamp lamps were the 11%
carrying? Perhaps they had seen a recommendation for Poundland on this
forum.

On 08/12/2014 13:24, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...-police-147907

"This story wins the prize for most ridiculous statistic of the day. Of
course 89% of riders stopped didn't have adequate lights: they presumably
weren't stopping the ones who DID have adequate lights.."

Err... and how come that of the people stopped for not having lights only
89% didn't have lights? So what kind of non-lamp lamps were the 11%
carrying? Perhaps they had seen a recommendation for Poundland on this
forum.



Perhaps the 11 percent did have lights but they were not lit, very dim
or obscured from view.

On 08/12/2014 13:24, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...-police-147907

"This story wins the prize for most ridiculous statistic of the day. Of
course 89% of riders stopped didn't have adequate lights: they presumably
weren't stopping the ones who DID have adequate lights.."

Err... and how come that of the people stopped for not having lights only
89% didn't have lights? So what kind of non-lamp lamps were the 11%
carrying? Perhaps they had seen a recommendation for Poundland on this
forum.

QUOTE:
Thames Valley Police have said that around 89% of riders they stopped on
a given night in Oxford weren’t equipped with the necessary bike lights,
as the crackdown continues on cyclists riding with poor visibility in
the city.
ENDQUOTE

As long as you have the advantage of a reasonable command and
comprehension of the English language, there is no difficulty with that
part of the story.

Just bear in mind that the writer does not state that the cyclists were
stopped for having no lights. They might have been stopped for going
through red traffic lights, for instance, or for cycling along
pedestrian footways.

Or, slightly more to the point, they might have been stopped for not
displaying lights, with 11% of those so stopped actually having lights
on their bikes but not - for some reason - using them.

Is there a separate offence of having no lights as well as one of not
using them?

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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On 08/12/2014 13:24, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...-police-147907

"This story wins the prize for most ridiculous statistic of the day. Of
course 89% of riders stopped didn't have adequate lights: they presumably
weren't stopping the ones who DID have adequate lights.."

Err... and how come that of the people stopped for not having lights only
89% didn't have lights? So what kind of non-lamp lamps were the 11%
carrying? Perhaps they had seen a recommendation for Poundland on this
forum.


Perhaps the 11 percent did have lights but they were not lit, very dim

Yes, as I suggested

or obscured from view.

On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:53:25 +0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

On 08/12/2014 13:24, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...-police-147907

"This story wins the prize for most ridiculous statistic of the day. Of
course 89% of riders stopped didn't have adequate lights: they presumably
weren't stopping the ones who DID have adequate lights.."

Err... and how come that of the people stopped for not having lights only
89% didn't have lights? So what kind of non-lamp lamps were the 11%
carrying? Perhaps they had seen a recommendation for Poundland on this
forum.



Perhaps the 11 percent did have lights but they were not lit, very dim
or obscured from view.

Perhaps their lights didn't cost more than most bicycles and the
owners therefore were not proper cyclists

"TMS320" wrote in message ...

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...-police-147907

"This story wins the prize for most ridiculous statistic of the day. Of
course 89% of riders stopped didn't have adequate lights: they presumably
weren't stopping the ones who DID have adequate lights.."

Err... and how come that of the people stopped for not having lights only
89% didn't have lights? So what kind of non-lamp lamps were the 11%
carrying? Perhaps they had seen a recommendation for Poundland on this
forum.


If you read the actual TVP press release, you will find that the police were
stopping cyclists for safety checks, one of which was for lights:

http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/ne....htm?id=296474