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so you want to be a pro?
Michael Press wrote:
In article , "Steve Freides" wrote: Scott wrote: I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's, chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get that one opportunity they'll make it big. All they need is someone to notice them and it's on like donkey kong. The sad thing is, most of those in this situation must be delusional, as it's not a case of not being noticed, it's probably a case of just not having the talent (are you reading this, Mike?). Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods: http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...-clercq_172960 Discuss amongst yourselves. Great line: "Riders should attack a little bit more, they sometimes look too much to each other. If you feel good, you always need to try to attack." I don't know that it's actually good advice. One could argue - pretty convincingly, IMHO - that the reason he stayed away is because no one thought a no-name-newbie was capable of staying away for that long. The interesting thing to watch is whether he wins more or is a one-trick wonder who had beginner's - and unknown rider's - luck. Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race. I know on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to **** and moan about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized dreams. Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again. Is that sarcasm? Nah ... Well the last paragraph is sarcasm, not what preceded it. I actually wouldn't mind discussing what I said that was on-topic - curious to know if such "beginner's luck" happens in pro bike races. I don't think this is the first time it's happened. -S- |
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so you want to be a pro?
On May 17, 12:02*pm, "Steve Freides" wrote:
Well the last paragraph is sarcasm, not what preceded it. *I actually wouldn't mind discussing what I said that was on-topic - curious to know if such "beginner's luck" happens in pro bike races. *I don't think this is the first time it's happened. It doesn't matter how many years he has in the saddle, de Clercq rode well any way you look at it. Scarponi on the other hand, as even Gogulski mentioned as it was unfolding, was waiting for the exact right moment to launch his attack and catch de C. He underestimated de C by what appeared to be two or three watts. R |
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so you want to be a pro?
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"Steve Freides" wrote: Michael Press wrote: In article , "Steve Freides" wrote: Scott wrote: I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's, chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get that one opportunity they'll make it big. All they need is someone to notice them and it's on like donkey kong. The sad thing is, most of those in this situation must be delusional, as it's not a case of not being noticed, it's probably a case of just not having the talent (are you reading this, Mike?). Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods: http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...-clercq_172960 Discuss amongst yourselves. Great line: "Riders should attack a little bit more, they sometimes look too much to each other. If you feel good, you always need to try to attack." I don't know that it's actually good advice. One could argue - pretty convincingly, IMHO - that the reason he stayed away is because no one thought a no-name-newbie was capable of staying away for that long. The interesting thing to watch is whether he wins more or is a one-trick wonder who had beginner's - and unknown rider's - luck. Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race. I know on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to **** and moan about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized dreams. Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again. Is that sarcasm? Nah ... That's sarcasm, right? I'm just learning. http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/sarcasm/howtobesarcastic/lessontwo Well the last paragraph is sarcasm, not what preceded it. Thanks. I actually wouldn't mind discussing what I said that was on-topic - curious to know if such "beginner's luck" happens in pro bike races. I don't think this is the first time it's happened. I expect riders attack about as much as they can get away with, and without burning more energy than it is worth. -- Michael Press |
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On May 17, 10:02*am, "Steve Freides" wrote:
Michael Press wrote: In article , "Steve Freides" wrote: Scott wrote: I'm always amazed by the folks who plug away their entire 20's, chasing that elusive pro contract, thinking that if they just get that one opportunity they'll make it big. *All they need is someone to notice them and it's on like donkey kong. *The sad thing is, most of those in this situation must be delusional, as it's not a case of not being noticed, it's probably a case of just not having the talent (are you reading this, Mike?). Here's a case of what happens when you actually have the goods: http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...-stage-winner-.... Discuss amongst yourselves. Great line: "Riders should attack a little bit more, they sometimes look too much to each other. If you feel good, you always need to try to attack." I don't know that it's actually good advice. *One could argue - pretty convincingly, IMHO - that the reason he stayed away is because no one thought a no-name-newbie was capable of staying away for that long. *The interesting thing to watch is whether he wins more or is a one-trick wonder who had beginner's - and unknown rider's - luck. Of course, I apologize for actually discussing the race. *I know on-topic posting aren't allowed and we're supposed to **** and moan about doping, old riders in old races, and our own never-realized dreams. *Again, my apologies -- I'll try not to let it happen again. Is that sarcasm? Nah ... * Well the last paragraph is sarcasm, not what preceded it. *I actually wouldn't mind discussing what I said that was on-topic - curious to know if such "beginner's luck" happens in pro bike races. *I don't think this is the first time it's happened. -S- You guys are focused on the wrong aspect of the story. It's not that he won, but rather someone noticed his obvious talent and brought him up through a development system. He didn' spend years sleeping in his Yugo and eating pb&j waiting for the big break that was never going to come. |
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so you want to be a pro?
Michael Press wrote:
I expect riders attack about as much as they can get away with, and without burning more energy than it is worth. Right, but that's my question - did he get away with what he did because he was an unknown? My suspicion is that another rider of his abilities having an equally good day (I know ...) might not have been allowed to do it because at least some of the peleton would have reacted stronger, sooner. -S- |
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