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On 16/10/2019 22:20, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/ Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed. That's what you get for riding against the traffic. I know, I've done it :-( |
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On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 2:35:16 AM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 4:00:53 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:20:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote: https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/ Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed. Are you serious? The cyclist rode directly out in front of a moving truck waving his arm apparently to get the truck to stop. As I previously wrote, the first safety rule should be "Don't be a damned fool" which might also be stated as "Don't do damned fool things". -- cheers, John B. This is America John and as usual you show that you don't grasp the driving laws. 1. He was on the sidewalk AND HAD RIGHT OF WAY OVER ANYONE EXITING A DRIVEWAY. 2. He HAD TO BE APPROACHING when that Truck started to turn out towards the driveway and the trucker missed him completely. What if he were a pedestrian? 3. The Trucker did not stop which is a felony. All true, but still not smart of the cyclist. It doesn't help your wife/family when you can put "I had the right of way" on your tombstone. Lou |
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On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 2:46:45 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/16/2019 4:20 PM, AMuzi wrote: https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/ Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed. That's a perfect illustration of the dangers of sidewalk riding. And it's why people's "feelings" of safety are often nonsense. The rider doubtlessly thought he was safer riding that way. He was very wrong. And the precise same danger applies to wrong-way (or bi-directional) bike lanes, even if they claim to be "protected." It's one of the reasons the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found them to cause over 11 times as many car-bike crashes. "Protected" indeed! -- - Frank Krygowski If the cyclist thinks he is protected riding that way he is an idiot. If I was riding there I would think 'I'm riding here and there is a big chance the truck driver doesn't notice me' because: - I'm riding in the wrong direction, - the driver is in a high position and will easily over look me, - a driver taking a right turn will likely only be concentrating on oncoming traffic from the left. So I would have stopped. Lou |
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Am 17.10.2019 um 06:16 schrieb John B.:
The alternate is, of course, to stop and let the Big Mother cross the sidewalk just as he damn well pleases. Whereupon, you will of course be alive but have lost an unimaginable amount of prestige and undoubtedly people all over town will be pointing their finger and shouting "That's the candy ass that stopped for the truck". The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road ;-) |
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On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:49:01 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote:
The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road ;-) I generally agree. But it strikes me that someone who rides on the pavement all the time, or any time it is permitted, is probably also a gutter bunny, and that truck driver would have collected him either way. I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road". Andre Jute Aggressive Passive Safety: Bicyclists should avoid tangling with mechanical contrivances bigger than they are. |
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On 17/10/2019 10:24 a.m., Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:49:01 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote: The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road ;-) I generally agree. But it strikes me that someone who rides on the pavement all the time, or any time it is permitted, is probably also a gutter bunny, and that truck driver would have collected him either way. I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road". Seems to me that this would depend a lot on the road and the sidewalk. We had a couple people killed in Montreal going through an underpass and being rear ended by trucks. You'd have to see the setup. Steep underpass. Dark. Narrow. Truck didn't see the cyclists etc. There are sidewalks there and the city decided to allow cyclists to use them. Before the danger danger brigade gets fired up, this is a one off. I wouldn't recommend using sidewalks generally. Andre Jute Aggressive Passive Safety: Bicyclists should avoid tangling with mechanical contrivances bigger than they are. |
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Am 17.10.2019 um 16:24 schrieb Andre Jute:
On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:49:01 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote: The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road ;-) I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road". German government research publications "Forschung Stadtverkehr" number A7, from 1991, quoting a Danish study (bicycle accident count before/after introducing a "bicycle sidewalk") Ole Bach, Ole Rosbach, Else Jørgensen: Cyclestier i byer - den sikkerhedsmæssige effekt, Hg. Vejdirektoratet, Næstved/Dänemark, 1985. German publications of the same time provide similar results: Landeshauptstadt München (Hg.): Bereichsweise Unfalldatenauswer- tung zur Forschreibung der Radwegeplanung. München 1985 Fahrradwerkstatt Glocksee e.V., Auswertung von Radverkehrunfällen in Hannover, 1985 Alrutz u.a.: Dokumentation zur Sicherung des Radverkehrs, BASt-FP 8502, Heft 74, Bergisch Gladbach 1989 |
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On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 3:35:56 PM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 17.10.2019 um 16:24 schrieb Andre Jute: On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 7:49:01 AM UTC+1, Rolf Mantel wrote: The alternate is not to cycle on the sidewalk in the first place, when it is known that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road ;-) I'd be interest to hear where you got your information "that riding on a sidewalk is 3 times as dangerous as riding on the road". German government research publications "Forschung Stadtverkehr" number A7, from 1991, quoting a Danish study (bicycle accident count before/after introducing a "bicycle sidewalk") Ole Bach, Ole Rosbach, Else Jørgensen: Cyclestier i byer - den sikkerhedsmæssige effekt, Hg. Vejdirektoratet, Næstved/Dänemark, 1985. German publications of the same time provide similar results: Landeshauptstadt München (Hg.): Bereichsweise Unfalldatenauswer- tung zur Forschreibung der Radwegeplanung. München 1985 Fahrradwerkstatt Glocksee e.V., Auswertung von Radverkehrunfällen in Hannover, 1985 Alrutz u.a.: Dokumentation zur Sicherung des Radverkehrs, BASt-FP 8502, Heft 74, Bergisch Gladbach 1989 Thanks, Rolf. -- AJ |
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